Investigating the Death of 'Agent Dubson'
POSTED BY: TheSomnambulist
UPDATED: Friday, October 15, 2010 23:25
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Quote:Yeah, someone must have corrected it along the way, but it doesn't change everywhere...
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
How come my spelling of DOBSON has changed?
In the heading it's with the 'O'
and in the thread when opened it's with a 'U'
?
Anyone else getting that or is it just me...?
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Quote:The wind couldn't have been enough to keep Jayne horizontal. Soon as the Reaver rope broke, Jayne's boots were dragging on the ground. It was the pull on the rope that kept Jayne in the air. And that strong pull ought to rip open Jayne down to his ankle bone. But it didn't so Jayne must be a mutant.
Originally posted by Bytemite:Quote:
Anyway, he wasn't being pulled, it was holding onto him, like a fishing line before it's reeled in. If it was pulling him, then yeah, his leg would have torn wide open.
Well, it would have to be pulling on him a little, otherwise the hovermule would have to constantly be accelerating or air resistance would have to generate enough horizontal force that Jayne would actually go horizontal.
60 mph, which is what it maybe looked like the mule was traveling at might be enough.
Though the harpoon also tugged him down from where he was standing.
Changing subjects from Mal's incredibly accurate shooting of the rope to shooting the Operative's gun in Joss' script: If you're a killer and you have shot the gun from the hand of your mortal enemy, the Operative, the sensible tactic is for Mal to kill the Operative. But, No . . .
“Mal, it's ignoble to win easily. Turn your back on your enemy,” whispers Joss. "Besides, you're an X-Man. I know you will heal." Worst advice ever given by a scriptwriter to a character. Mal gets stabbed for listening to Joss.
The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:To this day I'm kinda fuzzy on where exactly he got poked. I believe the thrust was deflected some, and I conjure it was more a slice on his side, going through his clothes...
Originally posted by Zeek:
Mal was completely impaled with a sword and kept fighting.
Am I wrong here?
Straight through the kidneys IIRC. The scene got edited after the prescreenings. There was a strong sense of disbelief that Mal could be stabbed clean through and keep on fighting.
It's still pretty clear that he pulls the sword all the way back out before trying to stab the operative.
Though I guess you can assume due to the edit that the scene was more or less changed and given endless time and money Joss would have reshot it so Mal wasn't impaled. Still the fact that it was there in the first place seems pretty far fetched for me.
I agree about Jayne's leg too btw. He had nothing but a small limp like 10 minutes later when he was helping Kaylee clean up. That's one speedy recovery.
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Quote:Of his clothes & him, or just him?
Originally posted by Zeek:
It's still pretty clear that he pulls the sword all the way back out before trying to stab the operative.
I need to study it, obviously....
The laughing Chrisisall
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Hoo-boy, lemme wipe the egg off my face! He is CLEARLY stabbed through his left side, missing the stomach, but RIGHT where a kidney would be...
Adrenaline, there IS no substitute!
I WILL say he was lookin' pretty bad towards the end, coughing & all...
I seen this movie upwards of fifty times, and this is the first time I *cared* to know precisely where he was stabbed!!! The emotions of the scene just blur small stuff like that out for me, I conjure.
And that's how good the movie is.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:Funny thing- Jubal Early punched Mal a few times & he was out.
Originally posted by Zeek:
There was a strong sense of disbelief that Mal could be stabbed clean through and keep on fighting.
But that was when Mal had a hope.
The Serenity Mal was close to gone. And in that moment, expected to die for his belief. For one last stand against Alliance BS.
Chemistry is a weird thing. Jubal caught him cold. The Operative confronted him hot. A lot a man can do, in the perceived last moments of his time in this 'Verse....
The laughing Chrisisall
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The Operative takes Mal out pretty quickly in the training house, too. Though admittedly not as fast as Jubal Early. Still, he's a brawler, and they're better trained in hand to hand combat.
It's more like Mal just got lucky during the end fight, and the Operative got cocky.
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Quote:That was his sin... but Mal wasn't lucky- he was on a suicide run, that panned out to be a redemption of sorts, thanks to his innate humanity when dealing with the then-helpless Operative.
Originally posted by Bytemite:
the Operative got cocky.
Monsters can be unmade, and anyone tells you different is either faith-challenged, or a NeoCon.
Or hates Return of the Jedi...
The laughing Chrisisall
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So, Mal still fighting after the pin cushion action: do you buy it or not?
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
So, Mal still fighting after the pin cushion action: do you buy it or not?
The laughing Chrisisall
In real life, not a chance. In action hero/climax of the movie-land... I've seen things far more outlandish.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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