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Ratings for 10/4

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:30 PM

Considering the last scene of this week's ep, am I the only one who thought it looked like Sarah was about to say "Yes" to what she assumed was a proposal from Chuck?





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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:33 PM

You are not the only one.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by MacBaker:
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Originally posted by whozit:


"Castle" almost ties "5-0", "Chuck" fans should not click link.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/10/tv-ratings-dancing-sta
ys-on-top-monday-the-event-erodes-some-more.html





Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin



Those Chuck ratings never hold water. Even the Network knows the Chuck fanbase is tech savy, and much more likely to DVR the show to watch later. When those numbers are factored in later in the week, Chuck always has better ratings.




But they don't weight DVR ratings as heavily, because they know people skip past the ads. And that's what ratings are really about - what they can charge for adspace.

It could be the most popular DVR'd show out there, but if they can't sell decent ad time, it's worth very little to them.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by MacBaker:
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Originally posted by whozit:


"Castle" almost ties "5-0", "Chuck" fans should not click link.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/10/tv-ratings-dancing-sta
ys-on-top-monday-the-event-erodes-some-more.html





Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin



Those Chuck ratings never hold water. Even the Network knows the Chuck fanbase is tech savy, and much more likely to DVR the show to watch later. When those numbers are factored in later in the week, Chuck always has better ratings.




But they don't weight DVR ratings as heavily, because they know people skip past the ads. And that's what ratings are really about - what they can charge for adspace.

It could be the most popular DVR'd show out there, but if they can't sell decent ad time, it's worth very little to them.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



If any of that was true, Chuck would've been cancelled by now. You experts make these cancellation claims every year, and so far NBC hasn't struck. Yeah, it could happen, but as long as the demo is favorable and the overall ratings don't fall much, NBC doesn't exactly have anything better to replace it with.

Too bad Firefly wasn't treated the same way, but please mindlessly attack any network that actually gives an original series a chance, and actually considers DVR numbers. It's been proven in studies that those that skip commercials still know the products being advertised, so that argument is simplistic!

Lets go your way though, and networks should follow FOX's lead and cancel anything that isn't an instant hit! Then we can have nothing but reality crap 24/7! Next up: Wrestling with the Stars, the results show!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 12:42 AM

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If any of that was true, Chuck would've been cancelled by now. You experts make these cancellation claims every year, and so far NBC hasn't struck. Yeah, it could happen, but as long as the demo is favorable and the overall ratings don't fall much, NBC doesn't exactly have anything better to replace it with.




Jeez, defensive much?

I didn't say they didn't count at all. Nor did I say the show should be canceled. Unpucker for cryin' out loud.

It's true they don't have anything better to replace it with. Which is part of the reason it's limped along. Plus DVD sales, and some other ancillaries. Maybe some higher-up that just plain likes it.

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Too bad Firefly wasn't treated the same way, but please mindlessly attack any network that actually gives an original series a chance, and actually considers DVR numbers. It's been proven in studies that those that skip commercials still know the products being advertised, so that argument is simplistic!


Uh... did you forget your meds or something? I didn't attack anyone. Nor, once again, did I say networks pay NO attention. Those numbers just carry less weight. I'm sorry that you consider my mentioning this fairly well established concept akin to kicking your puppy.

Knowing the products exist is not the same as receiving the full effect of the marketing. If this were not the case, they wouldn't bother making commercials, and could just flash the company name on screen. And whether you like or agree with it has literally nothing to do with how the advertisers want their products to be advertised. And they're the ones who pay for the shows. You are taking one tiny fact and drawing fallacious conclusions from it, which is, as you say, simplistic.

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Lets go your way though, and networks should follow FOX's lead and cancel anything that isn't an instant hit! Then we can have nothing but reality crap 24/7! Next up: Wrestling with the Stars, the results show!




And I said that.... where? Are you so mental you have to actually invent things to go apeshit over? I don't believe I ever even mentioned cancellation in the post that sent you into such a nutzoid fit.

I'll leave you to your breakdown. Buh bye.


"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by MacBaker:
It's been proven in studies that those that skip commercials still know the products being advertised

Kind of like a blipvert that doesn't harm you, yeah. In fact, if you speed by them, they make an even harder impression on you, if you're looking, and you'd HAVE to be, right?
Advert science taken to the next level...

I...need...a...Mazda......


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by MacBaker:


If any of that was true, Chuck would've been cancelled by now. You experts make these cancellation claims every year, and so far NBC hasn't struck. Yeah, it could happen, but as long as the demo is favorable and the overall ratings don't fall much, NBC doesn't exactly have anything better to replace it with.




Jeez, defensive much? NO MORE THAN YOU BUBBA!

I didn't say they didn't count at all. Nor did I say the show should be canceled. Unpucker for cryin' out loud.

It's true they don't have anything better to replace it with. Which is part of the reason it's limped along. Plus DVD sales, and some other ancillaries. Maybe some higher-up that just plain likes it.

Quote:

Too bad Firefly wasn't treated the same way, but please mindlessly attack any network that actually gives an original series a chance, and actually considers DVR numbers. It's been proven in studies that those that skip commercials still know the products being advertised, so that argument is simplistic!


Uh... did you forget your meds or something? I didn't attack anyone. Nor, once again, did I say networks pay NO attention. Those numbers just carry less weight. I'm sorry that you consider my mentioning this fairly well established concept akin to kicking your puppy. MORON, THAT WAS A GENERAL ATTACK ON EVERYONE PREDICTING CHUCK'S CANCELLATION EVERY YEAR! IT WASN'T AIMED AT YOU. AWWW, TOO SENSITIVE PANTYBOY?

Knowing the products exist is not the same as receiving the full effect of the marketing. If this were not the case, they wouldn't bother making commercials, and could just flash the company name on screen. And whether you like or agree with it has literally nothing to do with how the advertisers want their products to be advertised. And they're the ones who pay for the shows. You are taking one tiny fact and drawing fallacious conclusions from it, which is, as you say, simplistic.

NO, I'M TAKING FACTS FROM REAL STUDIES THAT YOU WISH TO IGNORE TO WIN YOUR ARGUMENT, BUT THE NETWORKS CLEARLY DON'T IGNORE. THE FACTS STAND, THAT THOSE DVR NUMBERS ARE FACTORED IN BY ALL NETWORKS, AND THE INITIAL NUMBERS QUOTED ARE ONLY THE INITIAL OVERNIGHTS!

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Lets go your way though, and networks should follow FOX's lead and cancel anything that isn't an instant hit! Then we can have nothing but reality crap 24/7! Next up: Wrestling with the Stars, the results show!




And I said that.... where? Are you so mental you have to actually invent things to go apeshit over? I don't believe I ever even mentioned cancellation in the post that sent you into such a nutzoid fit.

I'll leave you to your breakdown. Buh bye. GET A GRIP LITTLE GIRL! AGAIN THE ATTACK WAS GENERAL, NOT AT YOUR SISSY ASS! MAYBE IT'S YOU THAT NEEDS SOME MEDICATION BEFORE YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN!




Sorry for stooping to Storymark's name calling level. I keep forgetting he's the only one that thinks he should be the forum jackass! Too bad he can't take as good as he continually gives!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 1:41 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You are not the only one.





Not at all the only one. I think she is going to say "yes" to the mistaken proposal too.

I am not sweating the Chuck ratings. I mean it is not far off of the numbers for "The Event" which they have been pushing so hard. Chuck is a good lead in for the show.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 1:44 PM

Positivity. YES.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 2:14 PM

Mornin browncoats!

I wanted to get this up quickly while it’ s fresh in the ‘ol brainpan. I don’t assume to agree with everybody here….therefore I should understand that maybe they’ll find my opinions way out of whack!

I can only express my opinion….therefore I must humbly disagree with you ECGroron (and Chris, I assume that Chrisisall is of the same mind structure as EC. I haven’t read all the posts).

“ Cheers” lasted for years with Ted Danson and Shelley Long ready to cut one another’s throats…. (smile). Joss knew this ( the tease factor) and presented it with Mal and Inara.

Chuck (imho) would have benefited with at lease another season, maybe two, of him being a nerd and whatever comes with the territory. Not to say that season 3 is a washout. I have it sitting on my kitchen counter right now…. Waiting for the spouse and I to have time off together.

Anyway, I’ll have to get back to this thread. Hopefully I will be cowering and pleading for thy divine mercy… (
Anyway, till then I stand on my judgment……. “ Chuck” would have prospered more with him not becoming a spy so quickly.

Z, the headstrong browncoat….. Unless you prove me wrong then I ain’t so headstrong….lol, out

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