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POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, September 25, 2010 19:49
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Klesst is a goof on us all. An unfunny one.
More like a troll than anything else.
Okay, let the troll drone. Trolls are beings too.
The laughing Chrisisall
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[Coming back up the thread: Damn, Mal4 found the link, yes, it was the FBI website. So, given the logic proposed and the FBI’s figures, we should be strip-searching Latinos FAR more than Muslims, yes?
All that effort; well, I’m going to post what I found anyway--bear in mind the original question was answered, this is just ancillary material I found looking for it:]
Mal4, I can't remember the specific thread, either, nor can I find it. I did find the following at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents .It lists terrorist incidents going back to I believe 1800 or thereabouts. It doesn’t list who DID the act, but where the act was committed, and it shows acts of terrorism by many groups, not all religious, in fact more political than religious. That was my statement; not that the most acts of religious terrorism aren’t committed by Muslims, just that many groups commit/committed terrorism.
Another at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_groups lists terrorist organizations, with the caveat thatQuote:
There have been far more state-sponsored and lone-wolf terrorist acts throughout history than those committed for religion.
This listing does not include states or governmental organizations, which are considered under state terrorism, or unaffiliated individuals accused of terrorism, which are considered under lone wolf terrorism.
Lone-wolf terrorists like Timothy McVeigh have been responsible for most acts of terror in the United States. The McNamara brothers (two Irish-American brothers who bombed the Los Angeles Times building
As for non-Muslim terrorists, there have been many through history, including the KKK, IRA, Weather Underground, Aleph (Japanese), Hezbollah, Aryan Nation, AETA, Hamas, SLA, ALF and many others. We even have a law; Animal Enterprises Terrorism Act ( http://www.alternet.org/rights/141328/the_animal_enterprise_terrorism_
act%3A_the_most_dangerous_domestic_terror_law_you%27ve_never_heard_of/). As to religious terrorists in particular, even Buddhists have been involved (Sinhala Buddhist committed acts against Christians and Tamal, and Aum Shinrikyo— the sarin gas attacks—drew on Buddhism and Hinduism), along with Christians (Army of God—anti-abortion bombings and killings), Hindus and Jews (Jewish Defense League) http://terrorism.about.com/od/politicalislamterrorism/tp/Religious-ter
rorism.htm ).
Terrorism has existed since the Middle Ages. Historically, Muslims represent a small number of terrorist acts. Currently, they represent the largest, but if you take a historical point of view, there have always been terrorist acts, and always will be, long after those by Muslims are forgotten, as most of the others have been.
I remember a time when some of these were all the news, especially times when the SLA or IRA were the biggies; now it's Muslim extremists. The attacks of 9/11 were so horrific that it brought Muslim extremists to the fore, and we have become terrorized by them, a result of our own mentality rather than any facts concerning the US. History rolls on.
Anthony, your treatise on “logic fail” is absolutely beautiful, what I’d like to say but far better than I could ever say it. Thank you.
By the way, in my later search of the FBI, I found this about deaths of private Americans abroad in 2009:Quote:
So it looks like, even abroad, the chance of a US citizen dying as a result of terrorism is pretty tiny.
U.S. citizens worldwide killed as a result of incidents of terrorism: 9
U.S. citizens worldwide injured as a result of incidents of terrorism: 14
U.S. citizens worldwide kidnapped as a result of incidents of terrorism: 4
There’s a 2009 report put out by the National Counterterrorism Center ( http://www.nctc.gov/) which is the best. It has graphs and lots of details. According to it, worldwide, in 2009 the total deaths break down toQuote:
Deaths by Perpetrator Category
Tribal/Clan/Ethnic - 508I
Islamic Extremist (Sunni) - 9,280
Other – 154
Christian Extremist - 1,052
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"If I *were* a mod here though, I'd kick your sorry pitiful ass outta here."
Hello Chris,
Freedom of speech means we have to tolerate people we don't like out in the world.
Of course, this is private space. Haken's space, I believe. If this was your site, you could choose who to invite here. You could also choose what rules of conduct would be followed here. Your fairness in implementing those rules would probably influence how successful the site was and what sort of atmosphere you could look forward to.
I personally am very selective about who I invite into my house, and how I expect them to behave. I suspect most people have some kind of restrictive rule about their personal spaces, who gets to share them, and how.
--Anthony
Due to the use of Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, the following people may need to private-message me if they wish to contact me: Auraptor, Kaneman, Piratenews. I apologize for the inconvenience.
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Quote:A Pakistani co-worker of mine used to have a phrase for peeps like Kles-
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
If this was your site, you could choose who to invite here.
Stop da boolsheet.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Thanks for the info Niki. Always good to have more facts, and you dug up a lot more than I did!
I think another good stat to add (if I had the energy) would be who the violence is acted on. All that Latino violence could be fodder for over-active white suburban imaginations, especially since such minds would assume the violence was aimed at THEM. Most likely, that's a lot of drug war stuff, Latinos killing Latinos, right? So it's not all aimed at the US.
More to the present point, I wander how many of those killings by Muslims were done to Muslims. Which certainly wouldn't make it all right, but would have some bearing on the question of how much the average American should be, according to logic, living in fear.
OK, that's some Sunday night rambling after a long lovely day. Sailing is fun, but I'm sleepy. 
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Statistically, you have a greater chance of drowning in a five gallon bucket, than meeting, much less ever taking harm from, some radical islam nutter.
Conversely, if you happen to be gay, pagan, or a minority, your chances of being violently confronted at least once by some radical christian are statistically high enough to qual you for a gun permit even in a may-issue state.
Heavens know, I've exchanged both words, blows and bullets before with the fuckers, and dickheads like William Krar slip right under the notice of the pissants which are our so-called protectors while they chase phantoms, whip up the booga-booga, or even *make* terror plots themselves out of nothing to justify themselves.
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2010/09/blowback-provocation-and-
perpetual-war.html
It's all a matter of threat assessment, you don't take precautions against tripping on a curb and breaking your neck cause it's so damn unlikely, but you DO take precautions against say, an auto accident, cause it's statistically more so.
Oh, and believe me, if my niece were to swipe my login name, her atrocious grammar, leetspeak and complete and utter lack of technical knowhow (in fact, I just got virus-spam this morning, which means she's once AGAIN let her email account get loose, thanks to MySpace/Facebook exploits) would give her away all but instantly - I can't seem to convince her that she should apply the same standards to an email that she should a written letter and as a result trying to read that crap has me all but reaching for the Grammar Spork.
http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20040628.html
Her tech and PC knowledge is extremely limited cause her mom will not let her have a computer, or access to a phone, or friends over... cause she rightfully fears being legally called on some of her abusive behavior - I don't care that she is my sister or not, there's times I'd like to drag that girl behind a truck, as she has let that school and society put her in a position where she is abusive to her own offspring, and everyone BUT me seems to be ok with it, which disgusts me profoundly.
Wendy, former rescuee and self-adopted daughter, is the dangerous one, she can not only convincingly impersonate me online, if she keeps it short she can convincingly do my "voice" over the phone, too...
That don't bother me as much as it might, for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which is that I am not even the original Fremdfirma - that torch was passed to me by the same guy who gave me the files on Synanon, and some other nasty stuff, and I suspect by the content and dating of some of them, he himself was not the original initiator of THAT investigation either.
And so on, and so forth.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AsLongAsThereIsEvil
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Yer most welcome, Mal4; I learn as much looking things up on Google that people mention here as I do posting--and actually spend a lot more time at it. It's quite an education, and yes, I take most of what I read with a BIG grain of salt, nonetheless, I've learned tons.
That last one, National Counterterrorism Center, had a pie chart and statistics on victims of terrorism, too...I seem to recall something there and several other places that talked about the percentages of victims who were this or that. That NCTC had a ton of pie charts at the very end which broke terrorism down by all sorts of categories. Was interesting.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Klesst:Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
Let us say that most religious terrorists are Muslim. I don't have these figures. It's a supposition for an argument.
One could then say that I am more likely to find a terrorist in a Mosque than in a Church. That's fine, as far as it goes.
However, like you pointed out, the chance of finding a terrorist at all is vanishingly small, much like the chance of getting hit by lightning in my living room. It's happened before, but it's bloody unlikely.
So because the probability of a Muslin terrorist killing you is remote, we should strip search little old ladies and pretend that they are just as likely to be terrorists. I understand there is almost no chance I personally will get killed by a terrorist, but I don't want to see little old ladies get blown up because you're to much of a pussy to accept the fact that stopping Muslim terrorists requires looking in the Muslim population not in an old ladies anus.
Why is this the only post here that makes any sense?.....And you cunts mock it.
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Klesst is a goof on us all. An unfunny one.
More like a troll than anything else.
Okay, let the troll drone. Trolls are beings too.
The laughing Chrisisall
Why would being unfunny matter? First Klesst is funny...Come on "old lady's anus'"....Hilarious. The point that none of us are going to get blown up by sand-niggars, however thousands of others are/have, is fact. Read a paper, watch CBS EeeVin(meant to sound like the lion in wizard of oz), take head out of arse....the truth is with skully.........
pointingoutacockisall....onethatisnotonkwickoslipsisall
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Quote:Ha! Your response to a post you find sensible is to call everyone a cunt, and you wonder why everyone thinks you're a trollish moron?
Originally posted by kaneman:
Why is this the only post here that makes any sense?.....And you cunts mock it.
I guess you'd have to not be a moron to see the irony.
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