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POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, September 25, 2010 19:49
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Quote:Xactly.
Originally posted by mal4prez:
certain politicians have learned of the power of fear, and they hold sway over minds who can't do LOGIC.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:There IS internal logic, and I think my intended subject is fairly consistent in that regard. Indeed, we all run to a degree on our own internal logic a great deal of the time. Stepping outside one's self is very difficult. I tried to do that with my initial post, but upon re-reading it, I think I still strayed into judgemental mockery on some small level... I was honestly trying to avoid that.
Originally posted by mal4prez:
The mistake you make, Chris, is trying to place logic in brains that are not logic enabled. Though I think you did get the emotion right.
The laughing Chrisisall
I think you did all right, Chris. And you're right that there is some amount of internal logic in that mindset, but it's based on fallacious assumptions such as ISLAM==EVIL, AMERICA==GOOD. These crappy assumptions make the whole argument null and void to me.
I don't mean to be mindlessly dismissive. I've had some experience with living in such a house of cards: denial makes for a structure that seems solid, but it's built on lies that one can't let oneself examine. I see this in the mentality of those who live in blind hate and endless, paranoid fear. They can't construct a reasonable reply to an honest question (CAN'T, not WON'T) because they are incapable of examining their own minds.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:That's freakin' hi-larious, Mince!!!!
Originally posted by mincingbeast:
an Iranian bastard, who fasted for Ramadan for his ma's sake but drank Keystone all the time
Yeah. Life's too short for drinking cheap beer , except among the Muslim extremists who believe Life's too cheap for drinking short beers...
I used to know several Paki-Muslims who were total porn-dogs...One of the funniest bits was that one of them was a 'prince' in the Paki 'royal family' that was in power at the time. He had a golden necklace with a large Arabic script. I asked him the significance of it , and he said , in reverent tones , " It is the Name of God..."
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Quote:Me either- see my next response...
Originally posted by mal4prez:
I don't mean to be mindlessly dismissive.
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Originally posted by out2theblack:
I used to know several Paki-Muslims who were total porn-dogs...One of the funniest bits was that one of them was a 'prince' in the Paki 'royal family' that was in power at the time. He had a golden necklace with a large Arabic script. I asked him the significance of it , and he said , in reverent tones , " It is the Name of God..."
I used to work with a few Muslim dudes, one got married to an American girl while boasting that he f***ed every other hot chick in sight. Then got bothered when I made fun of all organized religions (including HIS).
However, we must remember that peeps from that area who come here are not average representatives of their land- they have means, and that is uncommon (read: spoiled).
The laughing Chrisisall
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http://scripturesforamerica.com
A nightly prayer: Psalm 109
1 Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;
2 For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause.
4 For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer.
5 And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.
6 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.
12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.
13 Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
15 Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
16 Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart.
17 As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him.
18 As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones.
19 Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.
20 Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul.
21 But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name's sake: because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me.
22 For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me.
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Yea, though I walk through the valley of Piratenews bull**it, I will fear no post; for I am the baddest gung-fu man on site. Verily, Piratenews seeks fornication with other men in his mind, yet denies it to metrosexuals that come on to him, feeling unworthy of such pretty.
John, man. Cut the crap so I don't have to be an idiot like this, okay?
The laughing Chrisisall
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My experience with Muslims has mostly (but not all) been in academia. Which means: I've known some Muslim folks who were privileged enough to buy their way into American universities, and some who were talented enough to get there on their own. Also, I've known some who looked and acted just like any other average American I've encountered. There is no rule.
I've shaken hands with turbaned and robed fellows who were clearly taken aback by the prospect of actually *touching* a woman. An uncovered, on equal footing, American woman. The thing is, they did it. They made contact and then made an effort to be polite to me, to set me at ease. And not so they could sneak behind me and set off bombs. They were, like most people, willing to bend a bit to make the situation peaceful, despite our differing backgrounds.
I can't boast of always being so pliant myself, despite my wholesome mid-western Americana upbringing. But because I'm white, I'm given a chance to prove that I'm not really an asshole. I wish every Muslim had such a chance to be known as individual human beings.
I guess I mean to say: anyone who calls this thing in New York a "Victory Mosque" only proves that they are incapable of being as open minded as the Muslims I've known. Take ten minutes to learn about the builders of the community center before making assumptions of any kind of "Victorious" intentions. Otherwise, it's nothing but fear talking.
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Quote:Maybe it's just me, but I thought a Mosque (as much as I laff at organized religion) in NY is a way of saying Allah loves all, & Muslims (REAL Muslims) didn't DO this hateful deed.
Originally posted by mal4prez:
I guess I mean to say: anyone who calls this thing in New York a "Victory Mosque" only proves that they are incapable of being as open minded as the Muslims I've known.
Am I wrong?
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Logic is a meaningless word--outside of geometry and syllogisms.
You regularly prove yourself wrong. There may only be a few open minds left in the world but they are susceptible to logic. Logic and statistics tell us that we have little reason to fear Muslims because they usually prey on each other, but odds are if I get killed in a terrorist attack it will be Muslims responsible for my demise. "It's simple physics".
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Iranian bastard, who fasted for Ramadan for his ma's sake but drank Keystone all the time).
Probably reminded him of drinking camel piss.
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