I agree with President Bush
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Sunday, September 19, 2010 19:05
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Just let's please.... not forget the meaning behind the gesture by the organizations funding it.
Building this masque where they want to build it is a symbol. It's also a message.
All I'm asking is that we stop pretending that there aren't truly people out there that do wish us harm.
Hello,
I see you are concerned that the American people have forgotten that some people out there mean us harm. I want to assure you that the American people have not forgotten this.
I see you want us to be concerned about the symbol of the building. I want to assure you that if we give no thought to that supposed symbolism, our lives will not be impacted by it.
I see you are concerned that we are ignoring 'the message' of the building. I want to assure you that ignoring it is the best way to make it impotent.
Since you brought up the KKK, let me give you a hint about how to deal with a burning cross on your front yard.
First, call the disinterested authorities. Who knows? They may not be corrupt. Either way, it costs nothing.
Second, get some friends and neighbors to secure the perimeter. You want to make sure the culprits are gone and won't be hurting anyone.
Third, get some fire extinguishing equipment, or a garden hose on site. Fire safety is important. You don't want the fire to spread.
Fourth, get out the skewers and the marshmallows. Lemonade and Punch, too! Everyone have a party.
Now, Six, try to guess which of the four steps makes the whole process of intimidation pointless.
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My only advice to people is to make sure to have a few months of water and canned goods in the house and rotate the stock. Keep a firearm or two, locked up safely away from any untrained children in the house in case you ever need to protect what you've built to support your loved ones.
My father would say that such precautions are sensible advice for any age. And he'd be right. Of course, he grew up with the daily threat of the Big Red and the Nuclear Dead. Nowadays, we can worry about the collapse of government and infrastructure. I haven't decided which is more fun. I have decided which has something, anything, to do with Muslims.
Neither.
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It very likely may not be the wrath of Muslim savages
I see we agree. The noise about the Community Center is distracting us from any real problems we may need to address. Thank goodness you are part of the solution and not part of the problem.
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I'm worrying about only what I can control
Then we can also agree to, "forget the meaning behind the gesture by the organizations funding it."
Amen.
--Anthony
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If anyone thinks they are prepared for revolution or government collapse or invasion, they're kiddng themselves. Were any of those to happen, all the food, water, guns, etc. would keep you safe. Build a bomb shelter and crawl in, that's your best chance. I choose not to live like that. We stock food and water in case of earthquakes anyway, and Jim has several guns, but I don't kid myself that it will keep us safe in the case of a coming apocalypse, whatever form it might take. Better to make peace with yourself, live a good life and enjoy your life.
If you really think you can "control" much in your life, you're running around with eyes wide shut. You could be killed on the freeway tomorrow, or mugged by a--GASP--white person!!!
I see fewer conspiracies than some, and I don't think the cross-burning you mentioned as a conspiracy by those you accused. I dislike Sharpton and Jackson pretty strongly, as I think they ride racial problems or perceived ones) to get attention. But there is plenty of hate running around, and would be especially toward a black school plunked down in a white neighborhood, not to have to look for conspiracies. I don't believe it was the KKK, it's perfectly reasonabl that some kids--especially as it was a SCHOO, who did it.
Mostly, I agree with Anthony.
By the bye, if you have any actual FACTS that prove the community center is a "message", I'd like to hear them. Given the actual mosque they've been using for over twenty years lost its lease recently, and they had the money to buy the land and put up a community center that can benefit the entire neighborhood and help Muslims and non-Muslims get to know one another, it seems perfectly reasonabl to me. I don't see boogeymen in the shadows all the time.
And I don't NEED those boogeymen, as someone pointed outQuote:
This much we know: America needs its demons. We need our enemies, our menacing and dark-eyed nemesis, that foreign and terrifying thing we do not understand and against which we must rally and wail, push and pule, fight and destroy.
This is, as the legend goes, how we define ourselves, how we give our tribe and its happily flawed capitalist/Christian system meaning, purpose and a reason to kill anyone who dares to disagree. Too young as a country to know ourselves at any depth, too mal-educated to have any real and lasting confidence, we just lash and burn, too afraid to shut up and hear the quiet roar of our own grand irrelevance. Same as it ever was? Like you even have to ask.
Communists. Arabs. The Japanese. Blacks. Native Americans. Hippies. Gays. "Gooks." Immigrants. Chinamen. The poor. Women. Teenagers. Vegans. Science. What's the problem with this nation? What's really eating at our soul and threatening our honest love of an angry God, apple pie and giant homoerotic firearms? It ain't us. It's them. They're trying to mess with our heads, steal our freedom, impregnate our virgins, poison the water supply. Damn them to hell, and where's my shotgun? 
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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Pfaugh, they own the property, and it's correctly zoned, they can build whatever the hell they want there, far as I care.
These radical asshats clamouring for attention, that's what they WANT, attention, and every time we take them seriously, react with panic and disorder, swatting flies with a sledgehammer, WE HAND THEM A GIMME - shit, no navy, no airforce, and yet they convinced us, in our infantile STUPIDITY, to go over there and be their pop-up targets, like dumbasses.
The effective maximum range of an Ak-47 is about 300 yards or so, the Atlantic Ocean is a bit wider than that, last I recall, so why don't we just get the fuck outta range and call it a wash - and instead of teaching our citizenry to scream and wave their arms around screaming at the mere sight of a weapon, to drop a knee and start lickin whenever they see a jackboot, maybe shitcan this security THEATRE bullshit and let them see to themselves, for it was that very attitude that allowed a dozen imbiciles with box cutters to kill 3000 people - you don't piss yourself and scream and cry for a cop who's too busy looting someone with a bullshit forfeiture to get him a shiny new car, or makin ticket quota so they can afford a big new HQ with all the trimmings, you fucking kill them - then you call the CORONER to come collect the stiff.
That's the american way.
What these folk wanna do on their own land, with their own money, that's up to them, just as it should be up to YOU what to do on YOUR own land, with YOUR own money - fuck this demolition-man run your life shit, run other peoples lives, let them do their thing, symbol or not, so what of it, ain't like I gotta see a buncha fuckin murder-god crosses every damn day, several times a day, anywhere I go, is it now ?
Fuck em, let em do as they will, safe and secure in the knowledge that anyone trying that shit on americans, even muslim americans will get you killed even quicker than stickin the barrel in your mouth and pullin the trigger.
And till they come over here and try it, LAUGH at their incompetent, pathetic little smack talkin asses, cause to take em serious only hands em legitimacy, and ain't no terrorist "attack" on these shores up till 9-11 (and I have.. QUESTIONS about that one) ever succeeded without the help of our own fucking intel agencies, yanno, the guys who GAVE Ramzi Yousef and KSM a working bomb with an expert to wire it, cause not a one of em could build a fucking pipe-bomb unassisted...
WE are our own worst enemy, if you wanna be honest about it.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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I guess all that was just to say that there are certain reasons why organizations behind things do the things they do. A lot of drama was created for no other sake than to create drama.
Then you'd certainly agree that there's a lot more behind the organizing and running of the Tea Parties than they'd like us to believe, right? I mean, these AREN'T just grass-roots organizations that have spontaneously sprung up to express anger and defend liberty; they really ARE being orchestrated by big money behind the scenes, pushing a definite political agenda.
You'll agree with me on that, correct?
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.
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Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
If anyone thinks they are prepared for revolution or government collapse or invasion, they're kiddng themselves. Were any of those to happen, all the food, water, guns, etc. would keep you safe. Build a bomb shelter and crawl in, that's your best chance. I choose not to live like that. We stock food and water in case of earthquakes anyway, and Jim has several guns, but I don't kid myself that it will keep us safe in the case of a coming apocalypse, whatever form it might take. Better to make peace with yourself, live a good life and enjoy your life.
yeah, I think "The Road' (the book, haven't seent he movie) made nonsense of all that. Doesn't matter if you have ammo or guns, or food or water, pretty soon they'll all run out and people will eat each other.
Okay, that is extreme.
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I thought that book was kinda pathetic, myself.
Anyhow, look, supplies and tools are damn handy, and it's a right smart idea to have a stock, but knowledge is both handier, more portable, and more valuable.
Think about it, in the middle of that massive blackout, the one guy you know who can actually FIX a generator, without having to order parts, who can come over with some hand tools, duct tape and bailing wire, and have you up and running in a couple minutes...
THAT guy can name his freakin price, ehe ?
(For the record, it was a plugged air intake, mind)
But even more valuable in a crisis, is one thing.
Allies.
Even someone sorta clueless and mechanically inept can use a damn shovel or a hoe, can shout an alarm when some ravager is sneakin up on you, cause you gotta sleep some time and this lone wolf shit is pure suck anyways, especially when as smart and crafty as you are, age and hard use has crept up on you in the dark and you just ain't as quick or as mobile as you once were.
When it comes right down to it, the best resource to have... is people.
Enough people can make the tools, replace or relearn the knowledge, rebuild things, foster and repair a community, can you do that alone, hell no!
As an experiment, we held a contest on the fastest way to restore 120V AC power in an emergency, and while I wasn't up to the grunt work myself, my concept - as fashioned by a couple young college geeks, won the day, cause all you need is one truck and a single device.
Curious ?
Pull the battery, alternator, belts/pulleys and cigarette lighter out of a wrecked truck, use a wind-catcher of any kind, in this case an "egg beater" windmill which was grossly inefficient, but effective enough for being slapped together out of junk, and ran the alternator belt to the pivot using two different size pulleys for torque and max rpm, then ran the alternator to the battery, hooked up the cigarette lighter and plugged in an el cheapo DC power inverter, of which I have many just for such trickery, and viola, emergency power.
Shit, you wanna get cute you can rig a stationary or exercise bicycle to the alternator and muscle power that bastard, but imma lazy old bastard yanno.
That kinda know-how, it takes no weight or space, but is more valuable a currency than you could possibly carry, and can buy you the one thing even more imporant... allies.
While the lone wolfs hole up in their shelters alone and miserable, I'll be having a town founding party, that for damned sure.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Then you'd certainly agree that there's a lot more behind the organizing and running of the Tea Parties than they'd like us to believe, right? I mean, these AREN'T just grass-roots organizations that have spontaneously sprung up to express anger and defend liberty; they really ARE being orchestrated by big money behind the scenes, pushing a definite political agenda.
You'll agree with me on that, correct?
I'm an equal opportunity hater man... Of course I'll agree with you on that.
The puppetmasters on both sides got a majority of the folk on lock down, giving out one promise or another.
It's all fabricated....
Trust me... you'll be a lot healthier when you don't concern yourself with these events we have no control over. Listening to the news, you might believe we're on the verge of another Depression, if we're not already there.
that...Any whiny bitches that really believe this is a depression now have another thing coming.
I pledge from this moment that I will not inform myself of world events that I have no control over until they come knocking at my doorstep.
While you're all out there grasping at phantoms, I'm over here kicking back and relaxing knowing that I've done everything in my power to not have to worry about anything.
Seriously...... this forum isn't any different today than it was years ago since Bush was prez and I was rooting for impeachment. All the chicken littles worried about the sky falling from only their own perspective, along with very little patience for a differing opinion and an over-abundance of snide remarks from either "side".
Don't ya'all got someting better to do with all that energy?
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned."
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Well, there's keepin the sky FROM falling, and kickin it back up their one tiny little piece at a time, such as one can.
-F
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Your enhancing the Stockholm syndrome Niki. Your weak. If someone walked up to you and punched you in the mouth. You would submit in an instance. Then blame yourself for being there then understand the perp. Listen most people are sheep, some are wolves, and a few are the noble sheep dog. Ok In my own family there are weak people who have been victimized. That mosque is enhancing the Stockholm syndrome. Now the weak are with us for eternity. But don't hold back the strong from doing right. Bush did that with sending troops to jail so he was a weak president. He appeased the libs on that one, the mexicans with home loans, and tying the hands of troops for the muslim world. Democrats are traitors just for votes. The republicans are more sneaky about selling America out.
Wisdom is nothing more than healed pain.
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^Dumbest post ever.^
Go Fuck Yourself!
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