On biodiversity
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Monday, September 13, 2010 18:16
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Magons, doesn't Australia feed itself? It's for sure the U.S. doesn't. Maybe the U.S. *CAN*, but it currently DOESN'T. Just go to the grocery store and see where the produce is coming from: everywhere but here, basically. Now go look at the seafood section. "Wild caught, product of China", "Imported from Chile", etc.
Where in the U.S. do they grow Folger's Coffee, anyway? Or cocoa? I'll grant you Hawaii grown pineapples and produces sugar, but most of ours come from elsewhere nowadays.
I'm pretty sure we could, but we don't either. We have a variety of habitats, from tropical, temperate through to desert...so we can grow a lot of diverse stuff, but we only have a population of 22 mill or thereabouts, and the debate is on about how many mouths we can supply with food - given water is scarcer on our continent than yours.
Crap. Coffee? really. Try again Kwicko...you need to go to a better market if all you can get is wild caught fish from China..LOL....Or move to new england fag...lol
By the way we feed the world.....
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So ADOPT ONE, Mike! 
Every beastie needs love; every human needs as many beasties around as they can manage to give THEM love!
Frem, help that little guy as much as you can, plese? He deserves to live, and having fought his way to this point, he deserves it even more.
But watch out for momma...the erratic behavior you're seeing could be an illness, the worst case of course being the Big R!
Our local (not Humane Society) tiny organization that lives on donations, spays and feeds ferals, and done a whole lotta other things, has a weekly set-up in the local PetCo for kitten adoptions, and Petco sets up a dog adoption fair every weekend, too. I can't go by. Can't have any cats (huskies!) or any more dogs, but if I could...in a flash.
As to our having always been the "greatest" nation, that's so untrue it would be funny if it weren't so incredibly ignorant and sad. Numerous civilizations were much bigger and finer in their time, and what we have is BUILT on almost every single one of them. Because we're young and have no sense of history, we think we're so great. But we're just lucky, in so many ways; the major one being that we're virtually impossible to invade and conquer, shich couldn't be said of all those previous civilizations who went so far and gave us so much.
You're welcome to live in your fantasy land, but it's not real. We're just the newest, and wouldn't be so "great" if we hadn't had every other great civilization, invention, discovery that came before us.
I'd like to believe in reincarnation, and that you'd come back the absolutely poorest beggar in the poorest section of any number of places, and it would help you learn from the folly of this life. But I'm not 100% convinced of it, which means you'll only get one chance, and you're well on your way to blowing it. IF there is reincarnation, your inability to learn anything from this life will come back to haunt you in the next. It's called "karma".
Grandiose statements mean absolutely nothing when faced with facts and history. Simple as that.
And yes, we send a lot of food around the world. But we also import a TON, and throw away perfectly good crops and food in the process. We are the most wasteful nation in the world, and our time will come. That much I KNOW without a doubt. We've squandered what our immigrant ancestors gave us, and I don't think we'll realize that enough to do anything about it before it's too late, unfortunately.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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Well, I did drop an apple near his lair last night, which he apparently snatched and hauled back even if it was a quarter his size.
Found the mother late this morning, close ecounter with a car, sad to say, but no signs or evidence of rabies, hard to tell, but it looks like MBD from a prolonged bad diet, likely to have occured by proximity to humans and easy foraging as a result, or a well meaning human feeding her cat food over a period of time - possums are actually fairly resistant to the big R, and in the rare cases they catch that they usually go bellyup and die before becoming dangerous as the gestation triggers the play-dead reflex, which in short order results in actual expiration.
From the movement patterns I am pretty sure this little guy just fell off (they ride on the momma, sometimes), and she never went back to get him, so now it's up to him.
He'll prolly do ok, he's picked a very good spot for his lair, uncontested with access to water - it's foraging that'll be the tricky part, but possum are masters of it, seriously-opportunistic omnivores who can and will eat damn near anything.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Yeah, I know about riding mom, and they ARE great foragers. You're a good guy; will hold a good thought for the little fellah! The lair is vital to his survival, and if there's water close by, that's a biggie...
Sounds like he has a chance anyway.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Originally posted by kaneman:Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
Well magonsdaughter, I meant compared to other countries. From coast to coast we take up a lot of space (lng and lat)..Have the icy waters of Maine and the desert, the great plains,and the Rockies, the bou of La, and the swamps of Florida, deltas, forests, old growth forests...I could go on forever...What I mean is we are not an island nation or an inter-continent country...We are a continent and have the biodiversity that made it possible to build the greatest nation this world has ever seen...Do you know America is the only nation on earth that can feed itself?...year round.....with no help from the outside. Canada can't do it, Russia can't do it, England can't do it...No other nation can do it. We can feed 350 million because of our size, climate, and biodiversity....And our women are fucking hot.
So do you eat your women when things are tough?
Seriously, your posts make me puke they are so filled with self congratulatory egotistic tripe. Have you ever been anywhere else? Do you know anything about the rest of the world, other than it's 'not as good as we are' and 'full of people who hate us' -
You've got a big country with a lot of diverse habitats - that's true. It's also true that you displaced a helleva lot of people accumulating that aforesaid increadible richly resourced land mass - perhaps a little less hubris would make that easier to tolerate.
Remember that the long fought over area of land known as ' the fertile crescent' was said to be the cradle of civilisation, and is now an overpopulated, conflict riddled, ecologically damaged piece of real estate.
Not my fault people got displaced...it is what it is, and happened long before I was born. My reality is that I was born in the greatest nation humanity has ever known, I have no guilt about that. Don't be jealous you could always move here....Gotta go. Have two huge 2.5 inch rib-eyes on the grill. Football baby....real football.. Another American great. Have a lovely day somewhere not as lovely as where I am.
And just how big is your car?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Biodiversity is over-rated. We need white rice, white fish, white onions and white people.
You forgot mayonnaise!
YEAH! bland white food for bland white people, and bland white people for bland white food!
Wait are we still talking about Americans? This sounds way more like Scandinavians.
"...we need a hood ornament..."
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
Well magonsdaughter, I meant compared to other countries. From coast to coast we take up a lot of space (lng and lat)..Have the icy waters of Maine and the desert, the great plains,and the Rockies, the bou of La, and the swamps of Florida, deltas, forests, old growth forests...I could go on forever...What I mean is we are not an island nation or an inter-continent country...We are a continent and have the biodiversity that made it possible to build the greatest nation this world has ever seen...Do you know America is the only nation on earth that can feed itself?...year round.....with no help from the outside. Canada can't do it, Russia can't do it, England can't do it...No other nation can do it. We can feed 350 million because of our size, climate, and biodiversity....And our women are fucking hot.
So do you eat your women when things are tough?
Seriously, your posts make me puke they are so filled with self congratulatory egotistic tripe. Have you ever been anywhere else? Do you know anything about the rest of the world, other than it's 'not as good as we are' and 'full of people who hate us' -
You've got a big country with a lot of diverse habitats - that's true. It's also true that you displaced a helleva lot of people accumulating that aforesaid increadible richly resourced land mass - perhaps a little less hubris would make that easier to tolerate.
Remember that the long fought over area of land known as ' the fertile crescent' was said to be the cradle of civilisation, and is now an overpopulated, conflict riddled, ecologically damaged piece of real estate.
Not my fault people got displaced...it is what it is, and happened long before I was born. My reality is that I was born in the greatest nation humanity has ever known, I have no guilt about that. Don't be jealous you could always move here....Gotta go. Have two huge 2.5 inch rib-eyes on the grill. Football baby....real football.. Another American great. Have a lovely day somewhere not as lovely as where I am.
And just how big is your car?
Just big enough to fit a carraige full of groceries
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What's a "carraige"? And you wouldn't get a straight answer anyway, so why ask? Nothing he ever says can be taken seriously, there have been so many lies, it's not worth bothering to ask a serious question (or was that serious?).
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off
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