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My Car's Window Derailed

POSTED BY: RahlMaclaren
UPDATED: Monday, October 11, 2010 05:02
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Monday, September 13, 2010 11:40 AM

Great, a Youtube link.

I don't suppose anyone can make a transcript of it, since it was me who started the SLOWEST CONNECTION EVER (paraphrasing) thread.


Thank you all for your efforts, so far.


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Monday, September 13, 2010 12:42 PM

Oh man, it'd be nuts to even try, but tellya what I'll do...

Check your PMs for an Email address, send a reply to it and I can cull the file to FLV or MP4 formats, I know it'll be a bitch to download, but seriously, you're gonna NEED the video to get the job done, it's kinda nuts.

The FLV runs 22 megs, the MP4 is bigger, so we'll try the FLV first - Applians player is small and not too resource intensive.
http://www.applian.com/flvplayer/

I can maybe compress the file to a Zip or 7z archive if it'll help, but honestly there's no way you're gonna pull this off solo without the vid.

-Frem

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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:57 AM

Ok, I watched the video at the library.*

You know, I would cut pieces off my car, except for one nagging issue... I like my Cutlass. (Sorry Frem. There's no way I'm taking a scalpel to the Red Raven.)

Stuff I learned the vid: 1) It's simpler than I thought (Like so many other things about my car). 2) That cut in the panel, below where the seatbelt gets sucked under, is supposed to be there. Ohhh. 3) What NOT to do when I do it. (The guy in the video was probably just rough with the car to keep the runtime of the vid low.)

However, the video doesn't go far enough. I need to be able get to the window so I can maneuver it back into its home.

With the plastic panels off, I would probably see enough to do it, or at least find more bolts to undo.

*Shit. Realization. http://www.tlzone.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27457&d=12446
75809
I was at the library!!! I could have looked for a damn repair manual!!!

*long heavy sigh*

Oh, and Win 7 OFFICIALLY sucks.

I installed Space Rangers 2 (one of my top 5 fave games of all time) to use the higher end goodies that come with the game. Upon first running the game, it asked me to restart my computer (A lot games do that). As the PC's booting up, it finds some kind of "error" it needs to fix. After, I get back to my desktop and notice the SR2 shortcut is gone. I check the SR2 directory. HALF THE GAME WAS DELETED!!! WTF!?

*channels Milton*

Ok, that... that's the last straw.


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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:48 PM

Ayep, I learned my lesson with that Vista crap, that stupid laptop is at the bottom of my closet (because OF COURSE you can't get XP drivers for it's hardware, and this'll be your problem, too) and I rebuilt my trusty old machine from the mainboard up with WinXP SP2 - and with JUMPER SET hardware instead of flaky, glitchy, plug-n-pray crap that tends to re-allocate itself and cause a crash JUST when you need it to work the most!

As for the car, you've got the basic knowledge now, and I too found the manner in which the guy did it something of a hack job, pun intended, so what you'll have to do to avoid cutting is add a step - you're going to have to dismantle the door, and here's the problem with that...

Some of those attachment points listed as using screws or bolts - they'll be welded, almost every car I have worked on has occasionally had tack welds instead of bolts, most notoriously that friggin Kia of my ex's - which, mind you, went to the crusher a couple months ago, since no mechanic in town would touch it, and only mad-engineering miracles kept it runnin in the first place, do NOT buy a Kia, no Haynes, Chilton or Clymer manual exists, and the only way you can get specs is hacking, then raiding the KGIS system for service bulletins and even then they don't match up 1-for-1 cause they are NOT designed to be repaired, ever.

SO, you're likely to run into welds, which means you'll have to break them, then drill a hole, then put a bolt or screw in there yourself, if you don't have an arc welder handy, that is - best way to do that is a thin-edge prybar wrapped in duct tape to keep from unintentially gouging up or through the rest of the metal, and work it like trying to lift a stuck pancake, provided you can GET to them - make sure to have one with a really long handle, natch.

The window is easy enough to lift out and arrange either from inside, or if yer a smartass like me, a suction cup widget will the do the job ever so handily.
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Puller-Suction-Cup-Handle-Capacity/dp/B003
A1ATHU


And that's about all the help I can offer ya, but if I think of anythin else, I'll pass it along.

-Frem

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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:57 PM

Hold up a minnit, I THOUGHT I saw it back there - I gotta Haynes... only it's for the Olds Cutlass Supreme 1988-1995, but it should be the same system, right ?

*Lookin it up*

Annnnd it says...

Quote:

Because of the complexity of the power window system and the special tools and techniques required for a diagnosis, repair should be left to a dealer service department or a repair shop.
However it is possible for the home mechanic to make simple checks of the wiring connections and motors for minor faults which can be easily repaired, these include:
(amounts to lookin for loose wires and blown fuses)


*Throws Haynes manual across room*

I suppose it's a couple years too late to demand my money back for that piece of crap, eh - fekk me but if I wanted "Take it to a shop" I coulda got that for FREE, not having to do that is why I *GOT* these mother-lovin manuals.

There, I just saved you a trip to the library.

Good luck!

-Frem

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Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:11 AM

edited cuz i have problems with image links...

Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Wow, sounds like I'm in good company!

We're debating whether or not to take my other half's pointA-B 1998? Mercury Sable to the junkyard now.

It has 367,000 miles!

An antenna permanently bent backwards and tied to the rear-view from hitting 3 deer.

It's totally missing a couple running light covers.

A little gas panel damage from a small accident in Wally world's parking lot so I drilled a hole in the underpanel and bolted it togeter to keep it from flapping in the wind

A skylight that somebody rigged that hasn't worked since soon after we bought it in 2003. At least it's closed...

The steering wheel is a tiny bit... bent. Don't ask how THAT happened. It also pops when you go around curves.

The driver's side window will only close if you push on it from the outside.

The A/C blew years ago...

The boots are really bad and the starter has a dead spot so you have to hit it with a prybar to get it to start.

Still, it has a good stereo in it..So we're still debating...



Will let you know what we get come tax-return time.



if it's a Sable, and the antenna is in the front fender, it either pre-96, or 2005+.(Really 08+, the 06&07 models were called the Montego) The 96-05 models had it located on the left rear fender.
Buddy of mine's grandma, and now his little sis, had/has 96 sable, he had 97 Taurus, and my mom has a 99 Taurus. I know these cars.
1st Gen (86-91)

2nd Gen (92-95) ( image below is a Taurus, for some reason the sable wouldn't display)

3rd Gen (96-99)

4th Gen (00-05)

good news is, if it's engine the 3.0 v6 (not the DOHC version), the engine will go on forever with basic maintenance.
( the good ol' ford Vulcan 3.0L engine. Built here in Lima, OH. the armpit of the universe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Vulcan_V6_engine
( We now build the Duratec 3.5 ford is putting in friggin everything)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Cyclone_engine#Duratec_35



http://www.teamcoco.com

I was a Lima loser for 29 years before "glee" introduced us to the term. -ME

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Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:51 AM

on a side note, my uncle finally got rid of his 95 Bonneville Last Year.
Just over 300,000 mi. Did the Cash for clunkers, got an '10 Hyundai Tuscon.

He Bought that car new, drove the hell out of it for 11 years, traded it in on his '06 Lincoln Zephyr(got them to give him 2 grand), 2 weeks later, the dealer called him back asked him if he wanted to buy it back, cuz the auction wouldn't touch it (too many miles), They wanted (of course) $2,000., he offered $800.
They took it.
Used it as his around town car for 4 more years.


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I was a Lima loser for 29 years before "glee" introduced us to the term. -ME

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Monday, October 11, 2010 4:46 AM

*is 2 weeks late with this post*

It's fixed!

While I was sleeping during day that I would start night shift, my dad borrowed the car, and took it to the local glass shop.

Don't have all details (cause I was asleep), but it sounds like they have no problem opening up a door.

I hear the hardest part for them was scrounging around for one of those window clip things.

Total cost: $25!

And all the gadgets still work.

Again, thank you all for your efforts.


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Monday, October 11, 2010 5:02 AM

SUCCESS!!!!!


The laughing Chrisisall

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