Censorship or Freedom of Choice?

POSTED BY: JCKnife
UPDATED: Saturday, August 28, 2004 05:29
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JCKNIFE

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:26 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
It's not censorship. Just insecure companies courting a population made fearful by their government and fascist leaning media.

So, you're saying that fans walked out on Rondstat and bulldozed their Dixie Chick CD's because they were afraid of something? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

JCKNIFE

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:28 PM

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Originally posted by Hjermsted:
RE: Dixie Chicks' comments abroad.

When you are an American in Europe, you actually end up doing A LOT of apologizing for the United States government.

Maybe YOU do. I say you're either with us, or against us.

MILORADELL

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:33 PM

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JCKnife wrote:
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:28
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Originally posted by Hjermsted:
RE: Dixie Chicks' comments abroad.

When you are an American in Europe, you actually end up doing A LOT of apologizing for the United States government.
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Maybe YOU do. I say you're either with us, or against us.

Well now, don't that just make all us browncoats feel all warm and fuzzy and comrade-like?

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“Once you’re finished killing each other, we can plow under all the buildings and plant rows of flowers that spell out the words “Too Annoying To Live” in letters big enough to be seen from space. “ G’Kar

CONNORFLYNN

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:36 PM

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Originally posted by MiloraDell:
G'Kar is probably one of the best characters ever written - he was on Babylon 5, played by Andreas Katsulas. The character is just awesome, and got some of the best lines! And the coolest thing - he changed completely from the first episode, to the last. Definately kick-ass character!

He's talking to Londo Molari in that quote, who's Centauri, an enemy of G'Kar's race, the Narn. They turn out to be something like best friends. Very interesting dynamic.

And I won't shoot you for not knowing him . I just recently became reacquainted with him myself.

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“Once you’re finished killing each other, we can plow under all the buildings and plant rows of flowers that spell out the words “Too Annoying To Live” in letters big enough to be seen from space. “ G’Kar

Okies this may get me shot and I am not intentionally hijacking this thread hehe. I didn't get a chance to ever watch an episode of Babylon5 and am afraid to go buy the first season. A friend of mine told me I would need to have them all. My bank account would suffer greatly hehe, but now I may have to go buy it LOL

JCKNIFE

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:45 PM

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Originally posted by MiloraDell:

Well now, don't that just make all us browncoats feel all warm and fuzzy and comrade-like?

Mal said as much to Jayne at the end of Ariel, right?

SERGEANTX

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:52 PM

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Originally posted by JCKnife:
Quote:
Originally posted by Hjermsted:
RE: Dixie Chicks' comments abroad.

When you are an American in Europe, you actually end up doing A LOT of apologizing for the United States government.

Maybe YOU do. I say you're either with us, or against us.

Mark me down as AGAINST. But not against the people of the U.S. as a whole. Just the insecure fearmongers who've hijacked our govenment.... oh and the numbskulled sheep who support them.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

JCKNIFE

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:56 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:

Mark me down as AGAINST.

Believe me, I already have.

SERGEANTX

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
So, you're saying that fans walked out on Rondstat and bulldozed their Dixie Chick CD's because they were afraid of something? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

Yes. Sorry that you can't understand.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

RADHIL

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:57 PM

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Originally posted by JCKnife:
Maybe YOU do. I say you're either with us, or against us.

Well, then congrats. With one idiotic statement - one that can't even be claimed as original or thoughtful in any way shape or form, having been repeated near infinitely these past three years - you've proved your zeal and utter inability to consider any other view. I can now leave this thread having safely written you off as a lost cause, as a zombie of politics, as a fool who'd rather nod his head than think.

Unless you'd care to say something interesting, because I actually thought this was a decent food for thought thread. And you did start it.

There should be an insert symbol for rolling eyes. The stock of emoticons, silly as they are, just doesn't quite cut it.

Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction

CHRISTHECYNIC

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
Quote:
Originally posted by Hjermsted:
RE: Dixie Chicks' comments abroad.

When you are an American in Europe, you actually end up doing A LOT of apologizing for the United States government.

Maybe YOU do. I say you're either with us, or against us.

Then who is “us”?

Last time I was in Europe I saw three million people marching for peace, three million people, can you imagine that? I distinctly remember that among them were Americans. Are these part of “us”? Or is “us” only Americans that agree with you?

Is “us” the majority of Americans? If it is I’ve got news for you, Bush isn’t part of “us”. The majority of Americans, 54%, aren’t with Bush.

The way I see it you have four possibilities for “us”:
1 “Us” is all Americans. Therefore everyone is both with “us” and against “us” because “us” is divided.
2 “Us” is the majority of Americans. Therefore Bush is against “us” and those who dislike Bush are with “us”.
3 “Us” is the people on your side (which seems to be the government’s side.) Therefore the majority of Americans are against “us”.
4 “Us” is those who agree with the current position of the United States government. See 3.

[Edited, turns out 54% of Americans are against Bush. I thought it was 51%]

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