On biodiversity
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Monday, September 13, 2010 18:16
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Mmmm, free range amish... tasty....
-F
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Ahhh, you skipped right over my "than many other places". I know other places have FAR more diversity, but (probably given how big we are) America had a good share, once. We had such a huge amount of diverse ecosystems, like Kane said. It's only BECAUSE we have so many different ecosystems that we could compete with other "nations" when it came to biodiversity.
On the other hand, you're right in that I misspoke; I should have written NORTH America, because that's what I read (wish I could find the article again, but I looked and a quick search didn't bring it up). When you look at it that way, "we" did have a wide variety of biodiversity. Sorry. My bad.
One could argue that America becoming "great" (especially so quickly) was also because of minerals, arable land, lack of development and a number of other factors. We were a "rich" land before we were a "rich" land; it's a shame we're busy squandering BOTH.
Things like irrigation and nuclear plants and other things have reduced our biodiversity in ways of which most of us aren't even aware. We may be aware of pollution, development, loss of habitat, "bio-invasion" (non-native species being introduced), etc., but there are many more ways in which our biodiversity is being affected than most of us realize.Quote:
Possum are adorable, Frem, there's no doubt about it. Had some close encounters myself, but given they're so damned slow (watched one "run" across a quiet street one day, had to giggle) and easily surprised into freezing in place, that one don't count. Tho' if he seeks you OUT, you get points.
Agriculture and thermoelectric power generation account for about 80 percent of water withdrawals in North America. Irrigation is a particular threat. The Oglala Aquifer underneath the Great Plains has water resources equivalent to Lake Huron, but it is being depleted by irrigation faster than it can recharge.
You think we bland, white people don't need more than white rice, fish, onions and people (you forgot white BREAD, which many of us ARE), wait until you see what lack of biodiversity does to THOSE! (I know you were teasing, but some people actually DO think that way!)
By the way, even free-range Amish are pretty bland, from my experience. Evangelicals are too. No salt. Now if you want to talk about fried CAJUN, that's another matter. I'll let you know when I get back from the Gulf... 
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Actually I almost likely stepped on him, he'd come up to me while I was punching Key3 and started trying to chew on my shoelaces, so I felt a twitch and looked down and there he was, stickin his nose up my pants leg, and I was like "whaaaat?"
He appears to have been abandoned early by the mommy possum, who's likely seriously messed up about this one prolly being the sole survivor of the litter, something caused her to drop the pups too early, I've quietly buried three of em I found, cords still attached, so this guy is likely lucky to be alive, but also very much on his own, he looks a bit undernourished up close and I doubt the mother possum was very nurturing - I been watching her and her behavior for the last week has been erratic and very strange, so he's going to be facing a bit of a challenge, as she's moved on and left him to his own devices.
I did figure out where his lair was on the next round after, he picked it well, very concealed, defensible ground with a handy escape route so he's not likely to get eaten, but all of the food sources are defended by larger, more aggressive critters, hell, even the bunnies are bigger than him, and they're real pissy about their turf, as the raccoons learned to their peril.
I might cheat a bit, tonight I'll prolly grab one of them fallen apples and drop it near his lair, by picking it up at the stem and then shaking it till the stem snaps so I don't leave any human scents on it - which is all the help I can really spare the poor guy, since I try to interfere with nature around here as little as possible.
Speakin of cute lil critters, Huron Valley Humane Society is having a Kittyaplooza tomorrow, buy one, get one FREE!
Awwww!
We're of course, at kitty limit, but my Ex's original cat, "Lexi" (Lexington Demonica Voltaire) is in rough shape due to age, and I can feel her light fading, that's gonna crush her it is, though she'll try like hell to pretend otherwise, and caring for her four of the six does stress her out - but there's a couple residents imma go over there with and perhaps I can help them pick out a kitty that's compatible with em, provided I can pry it offa me, cause you KNOW they'll be all over me knowing what a sucker I am, meh.
-Frem
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Originally posted by kaneman:
Well magonsdaughter, I meant compared to other countries. From coast to coast we take up a lot of space (lng and lat)..Have the icy waters of Maine and the desert, the great plains,and the Rockies, the bou of La, and the swamps of Florida, deltas, forests, old growth forests...I could go on forever...What I mean is we are not an island nation or an inter-continent country...We are a continent and have the biodiversity that made it possible to build the greatest nation this world has ever seen...Do you know America is the only nation on earth that can feed itself?...year round.....with no help from the outside. Canada can't do it, Russia can't do it, England can't do it...No other nation can do it. We can feed 350 million because of our size, climate, and biodiversity....And our women are fucking hot.
So do you eat your women when things are tough?
Seriously, your posts make me puke they are so filled with self congratulatory egotistic tripe. Have you ever been anywhere else? Do you know anything about the rest of the world, other than it's 'not as good as we are' and 'full of people who hate us' -
You've got a big country with a lot of diverse habitats - that's true. It's also true that you displaced a helleva lot of people accumulating that aforesaid increadible richly resourced land mass - perhaps a little less hubris would make that easier to tolerate.
Remember that the long fought over area of land known as ' the fertile crescent' was said to be the cradle of civilisation, and is now an overpopulated, conflict riddled, ecologically damaged piece of real estate.
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Magons, doesn't Australia feed itself? It's for sure the U.S. doesn't. Maybe the U.S. *CAN*, but it currently DOESN'T. Just go to the grocery store and see where the produce is coming from: everywhere but here, basically. Now go look at the seafood section. "Wild caught, product of China", "Imported from Chile", etc.
Where in the U.S. do they grow Folger's Coffee, anyway? Or cocoa? I'll grant you Hawaii grown pineapples and produces sugar, but most of ours come from elsewhere nowadays.
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Frem, don't do that. Don't post up Kittypalooza vids when I'm considering adopting another kitten or two. I've got a happy détente going right now - two kitties, one dog, and everybody happy. Let's not muck it up! :)
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Magons, doesn't Australia feed itself? It's for sure the U.S. doesn't. Maybe the U.S. *CAN*, but it currently DOESN'T. Just go to the grocery store and see where the produce is coming from: everywhere but here, basically. Now go look at the seafood section. "Wild caught, product of China", "Imported from Chile", etc.
Where in the U.S. do they grow Folger's Coffee, anyway? Or cocoa? I'll grant you Hawaii grown pineapples and produces sugar, but most of ours come from elsewhere nowadays.
I'm pretty sure we could, but we don't either. We have a variety of habitats, from tropical, temperate through to desert...so we can grow a lot of diverse stuff, but we only have a population of 22 mill or thereabouts, and the debate is on about how many mouths we can supply with food - given water is scarcer on our continent than yours.
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
Well magonsdaughter, I meant compared to other countries. From coast to coast we take up a lot of space (lng and lat)..Have the icy waters of Maine and the desert, the great plains,and the Rockies, the bou of La, and the swamps of Florida, deltas, forests, old growth forests...I could go on forever...What I mean is we are not an island nation or an inter-continent country...We are a continent and have the biodiversity that made it possible to build the greatest nation this world has ever seen...Do you know America is the only nation on earth that can feed itself?...year round.....with no help from the outside. Canada can't do it, Russia can't do it, England can't do it...No other nation can do it. We can feed 350 million because of our size, climate, and biodiversity....And our women are fucking hot.
So do you eat your women when things are tough?
Seriously, your posts make me puke they are so filled with self congratulatory egotistic tripe. Have you ever been anywhere else? Do you know anything about the rest of the world, other than it's 'not as good as we are' and 'full of people who hate us' -
You've got a big country with a lot of diverse habitats - that's true. It's also true that you displaced a helleva lot of people accumulating that aforesaid increadible richly resourced land mass - perhaps a little less hubris would make that easier to tolerate.
Remember that the long fought over area of land known as ' the fertile crescent' was said to be the cradle of civilisation, and is now an overpopulated, conflict riddled, ecologically damaged piece of real estate.
Not my fault people got displaced...it is what it is, and happened long before I was born. My reality is that I was born in the greatest nation humanity has ever known, I have no guilt about that. Don't be jealous you could always move here....Gotta go. Have two huge 2.5 inch rib-eyes on the grill. Football baby....real football.. Another American great. Have a lovely day somewhere not as lovely as where I am.
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