Joss's politics

POSTED BY: doublethink84
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 13:09
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SOLON

Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:23 AM

Whatever Joss' politics are they make other people think about their own, and that can't be bad. Maybe that's just an undecided and unreformed independent voter talking, but thinking of American politics in a partisan way never appealed to me. The fact that neither of the candidates ever have is incidental.

Personally, I feel that the politics of Firefly skew in an undeniably Libertarian direction(and don't see anything wrong with that), but certainly apply to our current(American) political situation.

Also, at the moment(7/16/04 3:27am CT) my personal politics are leaning in a spell-check for President direction. And since I have to wake up in a few short hours, with a jackhammer pounding in my ear while I try to learn Spanish, I'll leave my opinion at that.

SOLON

Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:11 AM

...That's a literal jackhammer by the way, not the hangover variety(although I may have both tomorrow, it's not an unusual situation for me). There's construction work going on outside my classroom. And the fact that I struck out at the party I went to tonight, and stopped to check FIREFLYFANS.net before I went to bed alone should surprise no one(unless you were there for this party, because it was popping, and… never mind). My ability to spell this coherently when stone cold drunk on cheap beer and fine whiskey should shock and awe however(If I hadn't already credited the F7 button on my keyboard for the lion’s share of it anyway in my last post). I forget what the angry political discussion is all about anyway, because my oppressive, paternalistic, cabalistic, partisan government(federal, state, or local) did not break up our revelry in time(or possibly at all, I didn't stay until the end) to prevent me from enjoying myself to the point of severe intoxication(which for all you minors out there is not cool. Continue to enjoy the action, violence, and explicit sexual situations of Firefly without abusing alcohol, tobacco, or drugs and make your own political decisions(that’s what this country; mine anyway, but possibly not your own, as this is online) is all about).

...Or whatever’s clever. Solon the king of Greek legend probably wouldn’t feel the same way. He’d talk about honor, and loyal service to your city-state or something, but screw my noble namesake, he was a political philosopher anyway. I’m not so much, I'm not famous for it anyway, and if I was, I’d disagree with him on several fundamental issues anyway, not however his lesson to the Lydian King Croesus on the temporality of fortune, and the measure of a happy man(or woman). That is a lesson that everyone should take to heart, and one that is delivered in the first few minutes of Firefly. I'll skip the sermon here however, as I'm sure there are few interested parties reading this, and whoever is probably has a local library that could hook them up with the life changing lesson that is front and center in Herodotus' famous work The Histories.

GHOULMAN

Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:33 PM

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Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
I noticed that Whedon is pretty middle of the road, young Yank from the burbs.

Third generation TV writer, educated at Riverdale, Winchester College and Wesleyan sounds like aristo to me, but I am European.

Hmm. Well, from what I know about California (I'm over in the Maritime provinces these days) I'd say Joss is a pretty typical suburban American white male. His writting betrays that all over the place (imho). Aristocratic isn't what I'd call anyone American unless they were particularly white and rich.

Oh, and SignyM, I hear ya. No worries.

PURPLEBELLY

Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:48 PM

I bow to your local knowledge, Ghoulman. To my local audience, I'd have said middle-class, but I've never comprehended the definition of middle-class outside of my own culture, either.

SOUTHERNMERC

Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:07 PM

Definitions often defy definate understanding anyway. "Middle-class" is only vaguely defined as-is. My parents, while I was growing up, would be called middle-class here in Arkansas, but if we were in New York or California they would be near the lowest income brackets. You're right, local definitions vary wildly.

Jayne: "You got yourself lookin' mighty hideous!"

BIGBLUEFAN

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 5:08 PM

http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages

On the OB Thread # 11751.1

One of my first posts on the OB. Enjoy!

RUE

Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:33 AM

Political compass - interesting website.

SHINY

Wednesday, July 21, 2004 4:09 AM

This seemed as good a thread as any to post this High-larious political parody (enjoyable for both "Liberal Wieners" and "Right Wing Nut Jobs"):

http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/this_land_af

"I left my heart in Seren-ity Val-ley..." <-- the farthest I've ever gotten in writing filk. ;)

SIMONF

Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:19 AM

Finally found a scan on the interview with the now defunct Face magazine.

http://www.slayerverse.de/tanet/net_buffy_us/?navi=news.php&id=3873

You can read about Joss' admiration for Bill Clinton, what he thinks of George Bush, and his feelings on American foreign policy.

PURPLEBELLY

Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:53 AM

Wonderful, thanks SimonF. An insightful piece - by which I mean it bolsters my prejudices, naturally

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