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Better without the continuation???

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 22:20
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Tuesday, September 7, 2010 1:29 PM

While I don't think the BDM is as good as the BDS, I think the overall mythology is better for having some legitimate continuation/conclusion.

BACK TO THE FUTURE: The first movie is the best, but the others are still entertaining.

MATRIX: Should have stopped at one. Definitely.

STAR WARS: Since EMPIRE STRIKES BACK is probably one of the best movies ever made, the series is certainly better for having continued. I know that a lot of people don't love the prequels, but if nothing else, they add new context to the original trilogy. For example, we now know exactly why Luke was so whiny. On a more serious note, though, the whole "always two there are" thing really re-frames the battle near the end of RotJ.

In addition, I think they were a boon to Star Wars fans (a lot of the prequel-era EU stuff is far superior to the original trilogy-era EU stuff) and to the sci fi industry in general. Let's be honest, when the prequels came around, everything that was old was new again. You think we'd have FIREFLY, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, heck, even a GI JOE movie without the prequels? Think again.

STAR TREK: Don't much care. The less, the better.

PotA: Again, don't much care, but I do know the world would be a better place without the Burton movie.

BUFFY: I'm a big fan of seasons 6 and 7, so I'm quite happy with where it ended up. I have mixed feelings on the comic version of Season 8, but I'm still happier with it than without.


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Tuesday, September 7, 2010 5:10 PM

Firefly- better without Serenity?..... Yes, BDM really took Firefly down a few notches.

Back To The Future- better without parts 2&3?.....No, better with sequels.

Star Wars- better without chapters 5&6?....No, better with the sequels

Star Trek TOS- better without the subsequent movies?.....Yes, better without the movies

Planet Of The Apes- better without the movies after the first one? Yes, bettter without all the sequels. Second one, "Beneath" was good though.







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Tuesday, September 7, 2010 7:06 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Firefly- better without Serenity?..... Yes, BDM really took Firefly down a few notches.


Strongly disagree, but I can grok where you're coming from.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, September 8, 2010 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Are continuations a GOOD thing, or do they inevitably tarnish the original?

The laughing Chrisisall




I generally feel that continuations are good. But only if they are done right. It does depend on many factors and there are a lot that are not worthy.

On the plus side we have Aliens, Mad Max 2, Terminator 2, Empire Strikes Back, Godfather 2, The Bourne sequels, Batman Returns and The Dark Knight.
Buffy's story wouldn't have come to any kind of conclusion,
And look at how Browncoats feel now about no more FF/S. Imagine if all we had was the series and nothing to keep us going in those early years. Would this site still be here now? Would we still be posting here if it was.

On the negative side we have The Matrix sequels (although I don't rate the first movie anywhere near as high as I used to either), Godfather 3, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection, Terminator 3, Dark Angel S2 (that one's for you Chris), Batman Forever, Batman And Robin, the Highlander sequels and the endless sequels to horror movies.

For TV shows to work they really have to continue into at least a second season but the makers should realise when to call it quits. Buffy worked as whole over the 7 seasons, so did Angel iver it's 5 seasons. Some were of course better than others but were any of them really bad? Especially when compared to other shows.
For shows I've watched myself then The 4400 and The Dead Zone should have cleared up their story when the danger of cancellation loomed. Smallville should have finished several seasons ago instead of repeating the same stories over and over.

Most movies probably don't need a sequel(s) but some do have other stories to tell. The Star Trek TOS movies are a worthy continuation. The Toy Story trilogy is worthy and feels like a complete story of the life of toys through one boys younger life.
On another note imagine what we may have thought about a sequel to E.T. Or to Close Encounters, The Sixth Sense or even Goodfellas.


Overall they are a good thing but you have to filter the not-so-good to get at the rarer gems that are out there.
Remakes are another story but even they have some good ones.



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