Not so shiny: Plenty of drama for Buffy creator Joss Whedon
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UPDATED: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 17:48
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Another problem is I'm not convinced Captain America or Thor will do the same type of business that Iron Man did. Hulk did maybe half as well as Iron Man and IMO it's cause he's just not a cool hero. He's big and strong. Whoopdy doo almost all superheroes are strong.
So we have Captain America who is strong, agile and has a big shield. Meh. It's going to be set in the WWII which has older tech and is kinda lame by today's standards. Not so sure that one's going to be a huge draw.
Thor has the whole Norse god thing going on. That doesn't really do anything for me. He's not a character that I can relate to. He's no Peter Parker.
I'll probably see them both just as a lead in to Avengers but if they weren't I'd just wait for them to hit cable.
So, if Cap and Thor don't do so well then what does that do to Avengers?
I doubt that either Thor or Cap will do as well as Iron Man, but they don't have to, not every movie is going to be a break away hit. Hell Iron Man 2 cost much more and 1 and made a fraction more, so ended up being less profitable.
If you think the only appeal of the Hulk is being strong, you simply don't get the character. Not that he's super-popular, but it is one that appeals deeply to a lot of people, and both Hulk movies have done decent business.
Cap is a character I don't have much affinity for, though I think the WWII setting is the coolest thing about it, and the main reason I want to see it. You think WWII is a lame timeframe. Oh-kay, but that's you. It's still a popular era in history - in TV, film, videogames, print - and this will provide a take on it that hasn't been done in film much - or at all for 20 years or so. But Captain America does really connect, like the Hulk, for a certain set of the audience. And, he's also more than just a strong dude with a sheild.
You seem to equate character with power. If you want to be that simplistic, Iron Man is just a Batman knockoff with a shinier suit.
Likewise, Thor will appeal more to fans of swords & sorcery/fantasy stuff, and if Hemsworth goes over, will draw a lot of women (hell, the women I know swooned over him for just his 5 minutes in Star Trek, after he does Thor....).
Which I think works to the benefit of the Avengers - each character, though they do not appeal to everyone, does really appeal to a different sort of person. If they can get everyone from those disparate audiences to come along to root for their guy - they'll do just fine at the box office.
Also remember, before the first movie, Iron Man was less popular/well-known than the other Avengers.
And yeah, it could totally crash and burn. If Cap and Thor bomb, it'll have a bigger uphill battle. It could well end up retitled Iron Man 3: The Avengers.
But it's way too early to tell There's a lot of potential there, and it's really something that's never been done before in film. When you try something new, sometimes is sucks, and sometimes you get a classic.
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I don't get the Thor hate.
I mean, I haven't read a Marvel comic since I was a pre-teen (I'm a DC guy), and I'm chomping at the bit to see this movie. Have you seen the trailer? This looks to be the most visually spectacular Marvel movie ever made. Asgard makes Coruscant look like downtown Chicago.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I don't get the Thor hate.
I mean, I haven't read a Marvel comic since I was a pre-teen (I'm a DC guy), and I'm chomping at the bit to see this movie. Have you seen the trailer? This looks to be the most visually spectacular Marvel movie ever made. Asgard makes Coruscant look like downtown Chicago.
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I wasn't too impressed with the trailer myself, especially the Asgard stuff, which I felt looked a bit plasticy and fake. But that was pre-FX, so the look could well change quite a bit before release.
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