Ever notice?

POSTED BY: Ghoulman
UPDATED: Monday, September 13, 2004 16:44
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GHOULMAN

Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:23 PM

*Chuckle*... "Calling Hanover Fist!"

Personally, I like the Douglas Adams quotes. Marvin might still be alone on that planet! lol!

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
You gotta wonder what motivates 'em. I like to post on this board because A). I think I have something unique to contribute to the conversation, B). Writing helps me to clarify my thoughts, as does the often very thoughtful feedback I get and C). Sometimes I just want my voice to be "heard." Oh, and sometimes I just want to join in the festivities!

But why would somebody singlehandedly take on all comers in the kind of arid, cybernetic battle royale that seems to flare up on this board so often of late? Certainly, after the umpteenth itteration of your point in your 16th post you can't be contributing anything new or unique. And I don't see any of these lone gunmen refining their points, or getting any more lucid in their 20th post than they were in their first (oftenner than not it's the other way 'round, with them sputtering and calling everyone "mentally defficient" and leaving in a huff). And you ain't gonna tell me that this is their idea of fun.

And politically, you're right Ghoulman, all these fellas (don't think there're any girl gunmen, but I could be wrong) are rather to the right of center (oops, of course any number of them could drone on for untold paragraphs explaining how they're centrists and the likes of you and me are strictly lunatic fringe elements, you know--break out your tin foil hat and all that).

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

Niiicely put.

Now, the people I get mad at are the ones who just repeat over and over what they heard from thier Right Wing overlords. Parroting an opinion will not cause me to take a post seriously. Just because you copy and psted the opinion of Rush Limbaugh or C. Hichens isn't going to make me respect a post. If anything, I'll take it as the lame trolling it is.

Actual conservitives are welcome.

I love it when "they" call me a liberal and such. I wonder if they would be shocked to know I almost voted conservative this year (just couldn't do it because of Harper)?

But there is just no room for the kind of blind, stupid, crap repeated on CNN and FOX anymore, not to mention terrifically right wing articles we see in Newsweek and various other US papers. You know, not even the New York Times pointed out to America that Iraq has no nuclear plants or "stuff"... but every country near them does! Sooo, why attack them again? Now, this is SO crazy, so "wag the dog" that the rest of the world certainly noticed. Sure, there ar eother points, but the ABSENCE of this easy fact in US news reporting is HIGHLY suspicious. Americans should demand thier 5th Estate!

Right now, America is a big joke. Defending that postition isn't even tenable in the USA anymore! The evidence (sparce though it is) simply points to one conclusion... the White House lied to the American people to justify a completely illegal invasion of a sovereign nation.

And things are getting worse for the USA. Things will get worse still.

So here on this BBS we have seen a certain few, and I do mean few, who use allll thier time to "debunk" anything posted they don't like. Anything thier Right Wing Overlords don't like certainly. Seems these Bushites don't have minds of thier own. I love how HC points out that it simply doesn't take 15 posts to show your point. Too true!

Bubba Clinton sticks his cigar in the wrong place and he is the devil incarnate in the USA and almost impeached right out of office after a successful two terms while Dick Cheney and his White House pull the USA into it's worst and completely illegal times since the Vietnam War (excuse me, Conflict)... and they aren't even questioned. At least not one at a time lol!

GHOULMAN

Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
On the other hand, I'm amazed in a gratifying way at the tolerance on this Board to ideas other than politics. Everywhere else I go, people just tell me to shut up

You point them out to me sweetie and I'll tell them a few too.

GHOULMAN

Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:36 PM

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Originally posted by CapnHarbatkin:
I seem to recall a thread about 4 or 5 months back started by HowdyRockerBabe (sp?) asking something along the lines of "do you intend to vote for Bush?"

What followed was a really, really nasty, convoluted and generally hateful thread. I tried to make thoughtful points but as one of the posters above mentioned it pretty quickly degenerated into name-calling and sentence by sentence rebuttals with specious arguments. It got so bad that eventually HowdyRockerBaby (who seems to me like a really sweet and sincere human being) apologized for starting all the dissention.

Eventually I gave up on the thread and stopped coming to this board for a couple months. And that ladies and gents is the problem. I got turned off because I tried to post rational and thoughful comments and became disenchanted when I didn't convert anyone.

How does the old joke go? "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." That's where I'm at now. I'll post simple responses but I'll stay away from the religious and political discussions. You'll never change someone elses mind.

Besides, all it does is annoy the pig.

Now, how's about we get on with this increasingly eerie-ass day

Ahhh... well (I'm thinking), understand that it's a "troll". If this BBS were moderated that simply would not happen.

Since this forum is NOT moderated, one must defend oneself.

Which is why I've no problem telling people where to go. I HOPE I don't mistake an honest opinion for "the party line". So far, I think I'm doing pretty good. I've only told two people to, er, frell off. I think I chose well.

Oh, and that Doran guy, but only because he posted in each of my threads with rude remarks. Personally, I've no problem telling someone who calls me a "commie, whatever" off.

So it's a battle. You can play or not. Now, I am aware that the Bushies use a fundamentalist tactic when it comes to thier propoganda... they shout as much as possible and as loud as possible. That's why they constantly post over and over. They just want to drown out others opinions with an avalance. It's an old trick and considered completely nasty. You know, I've love to hear lots of opinions but these bozos make people afraid to post. It's the same thing Nazis did in the beer halls. Nasty!

So I will not back down. I WILL give them shiet. I will slap text for text down. Fight the good fight!

Personally, I want to take the dragon!

PURPLEBELLY

Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
You point them out to me sweetie and I'll tell them a few too.

Ta, but it's mostly in the Big Blue Room. That's a wet walk from the Maritimes

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, July 16, 2004 8:18 AM

I don't 'do' political discussions, being an anarchist (ergo, a race to rock-bottom chaos is BOUND to ensure should I participate )- but given your discussion there is a bit from old Mark Twain you might find very interesting there folks, no matter which direction you lean it.

Do a search for Mark Twain + Loud Little Handful on the net, and I am sure you will dredge up the bit in question.. I forget the exact place and title, but it was a very applicable bit of work you might very well enjoy.

-frem
diefuxdie

TIGER

Friday, July 16, 2004 8:29 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
given your discussion there is a bit from old Mark Twain you might find very interesting

Victory of the Loud Little Handful
by Mark Twain

The loud little handful - as usual - will shout for the war. The pulpit will - warily and cautiously - object... at first. The great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, "It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it."

Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded, but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the antiwar audiences will thin out and lose popularity.

Before long, you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men...

Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.

Mark Twain, "The Mysterious Stranger" (1910)

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...The beauty of things was born before eyes and sufficient to itself; the heart-breaking beauty
Will remain when there is no heart to break for it.

GHOULMAN

Monday, July 19, 2004 12:48 PM

^^^ beautiful.

JCKNIFE

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:28 AM

Hey, I can't speak for others, but I start plenty of my own threads! I'd rather frame the debate than jump into someone else's topic. Plus I'm on dialup. So after about 40 replies it's just not worth the wait

THELION

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 4:56 AM

Why are so many people bashing liberals? I'm a liberal, to a certain extent. As in, I believe that the government should stay out of people's business, and stop making laws that limit freedom, instead of protecting it. I think most people, though, just don't feel like creating a bunch of useless threads to debate tired subjects; it's kind of like thrashing a deceased equine post mortem.

GHOULMAN

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
Hey, I can't speak for others, but I start plenty of my own threads! I'd rather frame the debate than jump into someone else's topic. Plus I'm on dialup. So after about 40 replies it's just not worth the wait

*Ghoulman checks each thread here*

Not ONE thread (except the one you just did today dated:Tuesday, July 20, 2004) in Real World is yours. You're a liar.

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