BRITAIN......FYI
POSTED BY: peacekeeper
UPDATED: Monday, November 18, 2024 21:57
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Quote:I can't talk about The Patriot as I haven't seen it, but Braveheart was a great piece of cinema.
Originally posted by Niki2:
I knew most of that, PK, but not the difference between the United Kingdom and Great Britain.
I have friends who are downright offended when we call them "English", as they come from Scotland or Wales. I have others who don't want to be called "British", but rather "English". Most Americans, I think, don't know the difference.
I also didn't know that part of Ireland is independent of Great Britain, that's interesting. Thanx for the info; I learn something new every day and it widens my horizons. Always good to have our horizons widened!
By the way, I couldn't sit through Braveheart; if nobody noticed, virtually ALL of Gibson's movies make the absolute most of gore and violence. He lives in a black-and-white world I cannot respect. I did watch the entirety of Rob Roy, which was about the same subject, and believe it to be by far the superior movie.
Unfortunately, it is historically BOLLOCKS!!! The bit when Mel Gibson is shouting "Freedom" as Edward 1st is on his death bed is utter rubbish.Edward 1st died in battle years after Wallace met his end, and to suggest that Edward 2nd ended up Father tp Wallace's child is utter insanity.
I hate cinematic license in rewriting factual history, simply because a lot of kids watch these films in the place of actual teaching, and are grossly misled.
Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!
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Pirate News your right on. The Peacekeeper white washes "Jolly Ole England" with her Norman veiw of things. The true English are the Welsh who where sold out by their leaders hundreds of years ago. They had been pushed to the west by the anglos then saxons the descendants of germanic tribes. Who were later conquered by the bastard children of Romans, Gauls, and Franks. They are called Normans. The southern English the Romano British children accepted defeat. They miss good ole Rome that is why they went catholic before the Normans showed up with their big swords. King Willy conquered and his grandson King Henry II made a country. This is when the Robin Hood story kicks off with Henry's queer son Richard and John. Then the Magna Carter is written. The end of tyrants and the beginning of law. Then the Virgin Queen pops up later and starts England as a Nation. She had her private pirates called the Royal Navy. Who molested merchants ships headed from Africa to the Carolinas. Most of the workers never reached the new world due to the sailors of the Royal Navy. After the African men had pleasured the blue eyed devils from Liverpool they dumped them in the Atlantic for shark bait. Which to this day the sharks hunting grounds still travel the old trade paths from Africa to America. Now the Scottish made deals to rule over themselves like in the movie Braveheart. Now what happened in Northern Ireland is later with Cromwell a true english men of today's stature. Cromwell was pure evil. Not a lime or a proggie, must be murdered. They killed most of the farmers and their families in Northern Ireland. Then put their Scottish Toads on their land to manage the fields. The few of the catholic irish from the north ended up hiding with the black irish in western Ireland. This is where some of the Spanish Armada crashed after the storm in the english channel that saved England from being conquered by King Philip of Spain. He was catholic and wanted Queen Elizabeth the proggie off the thrown. Between one and three generations the Scotch Irish realized the limes had duped them again. They immigrated to the southern colonies. This is where the mason connection is with the south. Look at the British flag. King George's cross is over the scottish x flag and the welsh flag. United Kingdom of Great Britain all kingdoms are under King George. The Conferderate Battle Flag or Rebel Flag has the X symbol. Now also the Texas forefathers are from the Virginia, Carolinas, and Tennesse. There ya go. The Alamo. Now alittle back The Patriot is very historically accurate. Brits invade Charleston then Camden falls they are pushed across the Pee Dee River [South and North Carolina Borders] the mericans to Cow Pens. The low land Patriots where not as tuff or harden as the mountain men of the Smokies and Blue Ridge. Then the British Army is stunned at Kings Mt outside of Charlotte NC. Major Tarlington a real person from Liverpool by the way was killed there. Now the Royal Army is not beaten but bloodied. They moved back to Greensboro the Guilford Courthouse battle the house in the Patriot movie. The Brits hurt, hungry, and running low on ammo run to Yorktown. Where GW and LaFayette with free black men are waiting. The Brits cut off on all sides the James River is Blocked by the French Navy. They saved the day believe it or not. The Royal Navy headed back to New York. The Royals thought we would pay taxes to pay for the French and Indian War. Which GW kinda started at Mckees Rocks in PA when he killed Duquesne of France while working for the Virginia Fur Company. Another story for another day. The English thought that the South would be friendly to the English because they where in trade with them while as the North was in competition with the British in trade and goods. GW owned the country side and the Brits controlled the cities of the north a stalemate. So hey will end the rebellion by heading south and defeating the other half of the colonies. Big mistake the Scotch Irish of
the South hadn't forgot why they left Ireland. And poor Irish catholics sucking o
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More laughs. Yee Haw
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In all of PN's rambling, paranoid madness, he nearly got one fact right, the British royals are almost entirely of German descent - the german Hanoverian dynasty suceeded the Stuarts in the 1700's and Victoria, a descendant of that line married Prince Albert of the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha line - the German royal house. She married off her many offspring to almost every royal house in Europe, making her the matriarch of modern European monarchy. You can actually look at WW1 as a huge, out of control family squabble, as her descendants were pretty much the major players in the war, albeit on different sides. The British Monarchy changed their name from Saxe Coburg Gotha to Windsor during WW1 to distance themselves from their German origins.
PN confuses the fact that the British royals are of German descent, with Nazism - as many truly stupid people do. German does not = Nazi. Although the Queen's uncle - the former King Edward the 8th was indeed a nazi sympathiser, his brother George the 6th was not, hence Britain's stand in ww2 in opposing and fighting against Nazi Germany.
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and put vinegar on fries give me a break.
'Chips' not fries.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Thanx, Magons, I didn't know all that.
I spent one entire Summer years ago checking books out of the library and following the entire British "line". I've forgotten almost everything I read; I remember that there were lots of "marriages of state" between royals of different countries, and I remember it was full of people trying to unseat each other, etc. That's it. All gone; one entire Summer!
Anthony, I LOVE it...hope you don't mind if I save it for future reference. Rants like that are great; they don't even tempt me to read, which I appreciate. If they were broken into paragraphs, I might be tempted, so I'm grateful it's just a
which saves me the trouble.
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Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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You think it's bull chips. But your wrong you don't know history. Cause y'all are ignant. Read Billy Kennedy's book on the Scotch-Irish. Or just look at Rhodesia, India, Palestine, and Ire. Norman pigs.
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The history of the British Empire reads pretty much like any other empire - including the current American one. It may have a different type of government and a different 'flavour' but it's still pretty much the same. Big powerful countries exploit smaller, weaker ones for the purpose of their own well being and prosperity. Most (all?) of the European powers had their own Empires at that time, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium were all carving up the world into bits of bounty for themselves.
Britain, like America of recent times, believed they were a force for good in the world, bringing civilisation to ignorant and backward peoples, as they saw them. At the same time, making lots of dough.
Judge not, lest ye be judged also. 
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