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BRITAIN......FYI

POSTED BY: peacekeeper
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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:48 PM

For those people who may be confused, let me explain the political geography of my country.

Great Britain has only existed since 1707.Before that, we were 3 separate countries;England in the South, Scotland to the North and Wales to the West. In 1707, after centuries of fighting each other, Queen Anne brought all 3 nations together to form one country."Great" Britain is not a reference to how superior we think we are, it is purely to describe the "Largest" or "Greater" island of the British Isles.To the West of Britain is Ireland. The southern part of Ireland remains an independent nation with no influence from the British Crown. The Northern part of Ireland elected in 1801 to stay part of British rule.Hence the "United Kingdom" of Great Briain and Northern Ireland.
England, Scotland and Wales still exist as geographical areas and each area likes to retain it's pre 1707 identity. I class myself as English in the first instance and British in the second.We still have sporting rivalries between our historic nations.England, Scotland and Wales are still separate footballing nations(Soccer in American speak).In the Olympic games and other sports we compete as one nation(GB and sometimes UK).

So----to recap-----ENGLAND, SCOTLAND and WALES are collectively known as GREAT BRITAIN.Great Britain plus NORTHERN IRELAND is the UNITED KINGDOM.The United Kingdom plus all the tiny islands surrounding us are THE BRITISH ISLES.
Please, can you understand the differences before commenting on how "England" sucks etc,etc, because you are geographically and politically incorrect. Sorry for the lesson, but there are some on here that get on my nerves for not knowing the nuances of it all,before they comment.
Thank you for your kind attention.

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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:37 PM

Genocide by England forced Scotland, Wales, N Ireland, Channel Islands and Isle of Man to join 'Britain' and 'UK'.

Their leaders were massacred, and their women forced to have sex with English rapists under penalty of death. N Ireland is still under martial law.

50 other nations were massacred to beome part of the British Commonweath.

Only USA defeated the British Empire, thanks to France and certain Native American tribers.

England founded, invented and controls Communism (Fabian Socialism), including Russia and China (Opium Wars).

British Empire is still in control of USA, which explains all these insane wars.

The current queen of England is a German Nazi from the house of Sax Coberg Gotha. Coberg is a jewish name.

Watch Bravehart and the Patriot.



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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:52 PM

I knew most of that, PK, but not the difference between the United Kingdom and Great Britain.

I have friends who are downright offended when we call them "English", as they come from Scotland or Wales. I have others who don't want to be called "British", but rather "English". Most Americans, I think, don't know the difference.

I also didn't know that part of Ireland is independent of Great Britain, that's interesting. Thanx for the info; I learn something new every day and it widens my horizons. Always good to have our horizons widened!

By the way, I couldn't sit through Braveheart; if nobody noticed, virtually ALL of Gibson's movies make the absolute most of gore and violence. He lives in a black-and-white world I cannot respect. I did watch the entirety of Rob Roy, which was about the same subject, and believe it to be by far the superior movie.


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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:06 PM

Arguably, rebellion in Scotland didn't end until 1747. It happened much as PN describes.

Karl Marx predates Fabian Socialism, but it's certainly an off-shoot.

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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Arguably, rebellion in Scotland didn't end until 1747. It happened much as PN describes.

Karl Marx predates Fabian Socialism, but it's certainly an off-shoot.



Fabian Socoalism is Communism by stealth.

Scotland still wants to secceed, and is very close to pulling it off.

Oz leaders now want to secceed, publicly.

The New World Order (British Empire) is now the Jew World Odor of the Rothchild banksters, that bought the British stock market in the Battle of Waterloo, and mortgaged the British Empire in 2 world wars.

The NWO has no problem sacrificing the "British" part of the empire for their global fascist dictatorship, since all nations must be subjugated before a global govt can exist in public.

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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:55 PM

"I did watch the entirety of Rob Roy, which was about the same subject, and believe it to be by far the superior movie."

Hello,

Rob Roy wasn't quite about the same subject, although many of the themes overlapped. Neither movie was particularly true to the specifics of History, though they both touched on important elements of the political environment during the times in which they are set. They are both a kind of "Feelstory" as in "Feels like History." They give you a vague idea of what was going on and how some people might have felt, without remaining true to specific events or even specific persons.

I enjoyed Braveheart, and am glad I saw it before I learned anything about the historical events of the time.

That having been said, Rob Roy is a great movie, and may be the greater of the two. It benefits from what I consider to be the greatest western swordfight I've ever seen. The appeal of that swordfight isn't just in the superb choreography of two distinct characters with two distinct styles, but also in the development of those characters throughout the film so that we care about them. I also loved that the movie abandons the pretense that the good guy must be the most skilled fighter. He clearly wasn't, and victory in this case had nothing to do with skill.

In fact, all of the swordfights in the movie are good ones, not just the final fight. Particularly appropriate is that most of the sword 'fights' last about 3 seconds.

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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:05 PM

Good recap PK - it is a bit of a jumble. I knew most of it but not the part about Southern Ireland being independent. I just thought the difference was that the north was more contentious.

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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:51 PM

Well, I don't know about more contentious, It's arguably more about resistance to English occupation and rule.

And factional warfare between protestants and catholics...

People thought ALL of Ireland was part of the UK?

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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:14 PM

I'm kind of surprised that Americans don't know about the existence of Southern Ireland or Eire, given the links between the two countries.

AS a a bit of background, the Irish have been trying to shrug off English rule for centuries - each generation had its own rebellion, which usually ended in defeat. Along with a number of unpleasant policies, such as banning Irish language and customs, allocating great chunks of land to English nobles, the English also encouraged immigration to Ireland, and they tended to settle in the north, but not exclusively. The settlers were Protestant, which also set them apart from the Irish who were Catholic. Over the years, they identified themselves as irish Protestants, or Orangemen,

Ireland fought the Irish War of Independance in 1921, and seceded from Britain, except for the Northern Counties which had a large population of Orangemen - known as the Six Counties. This plunged the free Ireland into a bloody civil war.

Eire is an independent country, with a President and its own parliament, whereas Northern Ireland remains part of the UK, ruled by the British PM. The terrorism that we associate with the Irish has been the Irish Republican Army or offshoots thereof, fighting against the British occupation - as they see it - of Northern Ireland.

Interestingly enough, many 'terrorist' tactics were first commonly used by the Irish against the English in the Irish War of Independence.

'Michael Collins' is a great film that explores this era of war in Ireland. I can highly recommend.

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Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well, I don't know about more contentious, It's arguably more about resistance to English occupation and rule.



... so exactly, more contentious of English rule... and more contentious between catholics and protestants. I know even less about Missouri.

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