Why are French women killing their babies?
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This really blows my mind!Quote:
I mean, I knew the French were stupid (
The question is as horrifying as it is important to ask: Why are a rising number of French women killing their newborn babies? Finding the answer has become a matter of urgency following the discovery on Wednesday of eight infants allegedly smothered to death and buried by their mother in northern France. And with that case marking at least the fifth instance of multiple infanticide reported in France since 2003, it has become vital for the nation to confront the phenomenon that appears to be behind it all: a mental condition known as pregnancy denial.
This latest case of newborn murder in France was uncovered in the northern town of Villiers-au-Tertre, after eight tiny bodies were found buried in the gardens of two separate homes. Six of the cadavers were unearthed on July 29 by police at the house of Dominique Cottrez, 45, and her husband Pierre-Marie, 47. Investigators searched their home after the resident of a house previously owned by Dominique's parents turned up two tiny bodies on July 24 while digging a pool in the backyard. According to the French prosecutor leading the inquiry in the town, a short distance south of Lille, Dominique has admitted to hiding her pregnancies — and the killings of her babies — from her husband, whom police describe as being "dumbstruck" by the revelations. Dominique was charged for the murders; Pierre-Marie has been cleared of wrongdoing and released but could yet become a subject of investigation.
"These women are so convinced pregnancy is impossible that once the child they never wanted arrives, they don't accept it as real and get rid of it to restore order to what they believe is nonpregnant reality," Delcroix says. "However terrible its consequences, pregnancy denial acts in infanticide cases much as a psychotic state that drives someone to kill another person does. Yet we still try women for what they do during pregnancy denial when we don't try psychotic killers deemed not responsible for their actions." Delcroix and others who are fighting for pregnancy denial to be medically and legally recognized as an illness argue that improving ways to identify and treat these women makes more sense than simply punishing the crimes they commit as a result of it.
What causes the condition? Several things, Delcroix says, including previous trauma such as beatings and rape. But other, nonphysical factors can also be involved, and denial can kick in even if a woman has already had and raised children without a problem — Lesage has a 14-year-old son; Dominique Cottrez has two grown daughters. And while pregnancy denial has been around for decades or longer, Delcroix says it's rising in frequency. The probable reason, he says, is changes in wider social factors that have downgraded the value of childhood, parenting and family.
But in some cases, it can also be a matter of women simply failing to see themselves as mothers. "Some women never manage to update their self-identity during pregnancy, [while others] want to become pregnant without wanting to procreate," psychiatrist Pierre Lamothe told Le Parisien on Thursday. "When the child arrives, it doesn't really exist for them. They don't give it life, in psychological terms. If they saw it as a [real] baby, they wouldn't kill it."
Others just never realize — or acknowledge — that they're with child. Experts on pregnancy denial say most sufferers are either sufficiently overweight or experience such little body change that they simply assume they've gained some weight. In France, 230 women a year discover their pregnancy only while giving birth. Though just a fraction resort to infanticide, Delcroix fears there are more of those cases that remain undiscovered than there are ones that come to light, as in Villiers-au-Tertre. And he poses a chilling question: Does anyone really believe that the spreading phenomenon of pregnancy denial — and the infanticide it can lead to — is purely a French problem?
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Hello,
I saw this article, titled just like this, on CNN. I was appalled at the suggestion that this is some new French problem. Throughout my childhood I heard about women who abandoned babies to die in dumpsters, suitcases, toilets, rent-a-warehouse boxes, etc. American women.
Now they want to pretend this is a shocking new French epidemic. It may be new to France, but we've been doing this domestically for some time.
--Anthony
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Originally posted by Niki2:
I knew the French were stupid (hey, I can be prejudiced, I'm half French!), but not knowing you're prgnant, or living in denial about it????
This is not at all a French problem. There's a TV show called "I didn't know I was pregnant" fer cryin' out loud. The women profiled on the show have all kept their unknown babies, though.
I don't know much about it, but these women should definitely be held accountable for their actions. The one mentioned in the article 'admitted to hiding the pregnancies' and the killings from her husband. If she was hiding it, she knew it was there. Denial might be powerful, but... I just can't imagine.
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I think "killing" is a little harsh description for what they're doing. We should just call it ultra-late term abortion. It's not like they can't just pop out a few more whenever it becomes convenient.
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I understand that you are trying to be snarky and make some kind of hideous point, kirk, but burying a full-term baby cannot under any circumstance be defined as "ultra-late term abortion" or indeed abortion of any kind.
What these women DO clearly need is some birth control. By the way, I think the same thing of women who have multiple abortions. Birth control. It isn't difficult.
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I think they should kill more of these things before they grow up to be un-showered, smelly, hairy little pussies....Who wants that? Thank you french women..
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I don'tknow, Anthoy. I think if there had been instances of MULTIPLE killings, more than one baby, in America, and it was increasing (or so I gather), it would have made national news, wouldn't it? Remember: If it bleeds, it leads, that's how news works. So why haven't we heard of FIVE instances of "multiple" babies being killed?
Dancer, son't bother. There's nothing we can do about them except ignore them and remember they're here for a different reason than the rest of us.![]()
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Originally posted by Niki2:
I don'tknow, Anthoy. I think if there had been instances of MULTIPLE killings, more than one baby, in America, and it was increasing (or so I gather), it would have made national news, wouldn't it? Remember: If it bleeds, it leads, that's how news works. So why haven't we heard of FIVE instances of "multiple" babies being killed?
Dancer, son't bother. There's nothing we can do about them except ignore them and remember they're here for a different reason than the rest of us.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off
And what exactly are you here for? How about the rest of us?
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My favoret dead baby jokes;
Q) What's red, sits in the corner and cries?
A) A baby eatting razor blades.
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Q) How do you unload a truckload of dead babys?
A) With a pitchfork.
Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin
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Originally posted by whozit:
My favoret dead baby jokes;
Q) What's red, sits in the corner and cries?
A) A baby eatting razor blades.
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Q) How do you unload a truckload of dead babys?
A) With a pitchfork.
Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin
*rim-shot*
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