A well armed society is a polite one.

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MALACHITE

Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:08 PM

Wulf said, "Thats a hell of a lot less than the "wars" between the Crips/Bloods, or even Columbine."

Um, gangs are pretty well armed, but they aren't all that polite to one another...

Also, the idea of my free speech being limited by the threat of someone deciding to escalate my words to bullets seems a bit disturbing to me... Why do we need the threat of weapons to be nice to one another?

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:08 PM

True, but luckily... nowadays we have this.

http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/

Unfortunatly, there are those who do not wish people to know how/where/and when people defend themselves and would love nothing more than to shut the idea of self-defense down.

But such is life and the gun-control people.

The battle goes on.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:14 PM

"Also, the idea of my free speech being limited by the threat of someone deciding to escalate my words to bullets seems a bit disturbing to me... Why do we need the threat of weapons to be nice to one another?"

I know, scary, isn't it?

But its a good thing. You have the absolute, unquestionable right to say whatever the fuck you feel like.

Just know, that in doing that, you may have to defend those words with a gun.

Real life is not like the internet.

Here, you can say whatever you feel with the reasonable assumption that whomever you offend wont/cant hunt you down.

Out there? Not so much.

So. Just think before you speak, or write. Think beforehand if what you say is worth fighting over. Killing over.

I do. Everyday. Here or in the real world.

Just my 2 cents.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

MALACHITE

Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

So. Just think before you speak, or write. Think beforehand if what you say is worth fighting over. Killing over.

I'm fine with this sentiment. I don't need the threat of violence to mind my words, so I'm wondering if there are other ways to encourage respectful behavior besides the imminent threat of violence.

Also, I'm not sure I like such extremism. The one verbal mistake and you are dead mentality seems harsh to me. Kind of like, steal a loaf of bread and you get your hand cut off seems unnecessarily harsh. It may produce results, but I'm not totally sure that's the society I want to live in -- especially if they carry that mentality over to other arenas. Like, if a journalist publishes something I don't like, the bullets will be flying...

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:28 PM

"so I'm wondering if there are other ways to encourage respectful behavior besides the imminent threat of violence."

Of course there are.

In the South, folks are taught to be respectful, because its the nice and polite things to do. You catch more flies with honey etc...

But in the end, it comes down to standing by your words, no matter what.

As to journalists, both left and right... wouldn't "bullets flying" be a nice reminder?

So. The question is: Are you willing to stand by your words, no matter what?

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

ANTHONYT

Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:58 PM

"Here, you can say whatever you feel with the reasonable assumption that whomever you offend wont/cant hunt you down.
Out there? Not so much.
So. Just think before you speak, or write. Think beforehand if what you say is worth fighting over. Killing over.
I do. Everyday. Here or in the real world."

Hello,

It's curious that you would posit this opinion on the same day you admitted to saying something crass and rude that you were ashamed of. (Presumably ashamed, since you claim to have apologized.)

I believe in an armed society, and I agree that people tend to be nicer when there are consequences for failing to do so. However, even if you armed all the population of the U.S., it's important to note that only a percentage of them would actually be dangerous- and hence a danger to other dangerous folk. Most people are unprepared to kill other people, a fact to which the military will attest. It takes a lot of hard work to get your average joe to kill someone, even when it's ostensibly in his best interests to do so.

So, let's not imagine that arming everyone will solve the ills of antisocial behavior. It's everyone's right to defend themselves, but not everyone will find themselves able to do so competently in our society. More important than arming everyone would be teaching them from birth how and when to defend themselves, empowering them with confidence, and instilling in them a positive value set with a bent towards cooperation and de-escalation of conflict. That combo is worth more than a howitzer. If I had to choose between teaching people well and handing them a revolver, I'd do the former every time.

--Anthony

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WULFENSTAR

Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:00 PM

"If I had to choose between teaching people well and handing them a revolver, I'd do the former every time."

How about both?

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

MALACHITE

Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

As to journalists, both left and right... wouldn't "bullets flying" be a nice reminder?

No, I think a letter to the editor is sufficient reminder and turning off the TV is a sufficient way to silence them. Your use of bullets here smacks of extremism, to me...

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:07 PM

I meant it as an intellectual excercise. If you are part of the media, and know that your words have consequences, real and lead-like, would the news actually report news? Instead of opinion?

Extremism... heh. In this day and age, if you make a stand against the status quo, you are an extremist... so be it.

I don't mind.

Just my 2 cents.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

NIKI2

Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:11 PM

I find the idea that one should be careful what one says under threat of being assaulted or killed astonishing, unacceptable and reprehensible. I see verbal fights nearly every day, and neither participant would even conceive of attacking the other, much less killing them. Even when it gets overheated (by which I mean a PROLONGED and angry exchange of words) does it resort to even fisticuffs, and that rarely.

It may be the mentality in the world where gangs and crime abound, but it does NOT represent the entire world, or even a large proportion of this country. By advocating all citizenry carry arms, is that what you're advocating???

It's an insane concept, that the wrong word might bring about one's death...and isn't that "censorship"? Are you only against censorship if it's done by the government? And do you truly think that by being armed, people would be more polite? Isn't it the places where people ARE armed that are the least "polite"?

I think you live in a world which represents a small part of America, and it is from there that your views arise, and from those views that you see that mentality as being efficacious to the greater whole. In that respect, your suggestion of an armed citizenry being good is fallacious.

What you believe may be YOUR "real world", but it is not THE real world.

Ergo, I don't think you're seeing reality and I disagree wholeheartedly.

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