EW article: '...Nathan Fillion...you deserve better'

POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Sunday, July 25, 2010 07:04
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IKIYOU

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:45 AM

i like your thoughts!

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:01 AM

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Although by doing Castle Nathan may run the risk of becoming pigeonholed most of the really good actors don't have that problem.

Maybe. We all know Nathan can DO the challenging roles. Guess I just have to hope he continues to LAND challenging roles in the future.

CLEBURNE61

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:00 AM

I understand what the writer is saying, but allow me to add a bit of perspective here.

I watch Castle regularly, partly because I'm a flan, but also because it's a decent show: funny, crisp dialogue, and a harmless romp. There's a downside as well: it's nothing profound and it's a bit formulaic.

Here's the problem: though we all agree that Nathan Fillion hasn't gotten the street cred he richly deserves, other than Firefly & BDM, can you name any other lead role he's acquired in a mainstream screened work in the last 8 years?

The point is, our golden boy might very well have gone down in history as the guy who took the "King of B movies and cancelled shows" baton from Bruce Campbell if this show hadn't come along. He might very well have remained simply in our circles. That woulda been a damn shame. Mr. Fillion's performances don't just belong to us, they belong to the masses. Castle, as imperfect as it may be, PROVES that Nathan is not a one-hit-wonder. That he CAN be a compelling-enough stage presence to carry a show several seasons and make it marketable. That he does have mass appeal, that tens of millions can see him for the first time in another context, and adore his antics.

This will guarantee him more work, and better work, and who knows, in the off chance the guys actually decide to bring the show back, his time on Castle can only help that or any other endeavor he chooses.

Castle is the means, not the end. Let's give him and ourselves a helping hand, and give it a strong 3rd(and perhaps, final) season.

Peace.

"Government exists to get in a man's way." -Mal

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:31 PM

Got to say I agree; Nathan needs more challenging roles, ones that will let him shine and broaden his appeal to Hollywood. While Castle is enjoyable (I catch it when I can, but am not an avid follower) and no doubt pays his bills, I think Nathan needs something a bit more than what Castle offers.

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BYTEMITE

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:11 PM

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Here's the problem: though we all agree that Nathan Fillion hasn't gotten the street cred he richly deserves, other than Firefly & BDM, can you name any other lead role he's acquired in a mainstream screened work in the last 8 years?

Absolutely. If you don't think horror movies count as mainstream...

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=waitress.htm

Maybe it's a little quirky, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing more mainstream than a prominent lead role as the romantic interest in a romcom. Downside, it only enjoyed limited commercial release in theatres. Not really sure why, because it would've done pretty well with a broader showing.

Then again, just because I can name it doesn't necessarily mean the average person on the street can, so maybe you've got a point.

SUASOR

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:52 PM

Let us not forget that Castle is a Top 20 show (top 10 in scripted shows), and that is largely due to Nathan and his fans in the writers room. As I remember, not much was expected from Castle. It was the little show that could, and did. That gives our BDH some real street cred in Hollywierd.

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:43 AM

I think you're confusing tropes for formulaic.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrictlyFormula

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropesAreTools

There are still ways to twist an idea and make it surprising. Castle's premise, while admittedly fun, is not this.

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:51 PM

I... guess? I thought you said you thought Castle was fairly unoriginal as well, you just choose to enjoy it whereas I'm choosing to nitpick.

But sure, fine. We don't need to continue the discussion if I'm bothering you.

BYTEMITE

Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:07 AM

Oh. No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I mentioned I watched the first two seasons? Of course I like the character Castle, and I enjoy the sense of humour Nathan brings to the role. Esposito and Ryan are also fun, though I have to admit some ambivalence for Beckett's character. She and Castle are like Mary Sues within the setting, only Beckett's the straight woman and so isn't saved by rule of funny.

Anyway, what I'm saying is the series itself needs to stretch it's wings, go new interesting places, or people will start losing interest. I lost interest. And I'm concerned about that reflecting on Nathan and his acting ability both in public opinion and in the business, because when people walk away, they usually walk away with a negative perception. And with Castle being simple, easy, and formulaic, the impression might come that Nathan's acting is also uninspired (it's not).

That's all.

YT

Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:58 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Today's EW article by Ken Tucker talks about Nathan Fillion and Firefly!

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Whatever TV show Kyle Chandler or Connie Britton might move on to once Friday Night Lights ends its run, isn’t it likely that both I and you will be moaning, “But that show isn’t worthy of his/her talent!”?

Sometimes Firefliday Night Lights comes along once in a career (or several careers, as the case may be)

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