How Can I Prove I am Not a Racist?
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Originally posted by peacekeeper:I've just given an honest reply. Fact of the matter is, you can't. Because to try and prove otherwise would be a lie!!And when I say "you",I mean "anybody".
Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!
Discrimination and racism aren't synonymous. They have different meanings.
Semantics Rappy!!. And pedantic on your part.My point applies to either definition,so your reply to it, is invalid.
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Originally posted by peacekeeper:Semantics Rappy!!. And pedantic on your part.
Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!
Nothing semantical about it , in the least. Far too often , folks will use the wrong words, lumping them in together with a usual suspects, so as to try to multiply their impact, when all they're doing is repeating crap their heard others say, while not actually thinking about what it is they're saying.
Like when folks say ATM machine, when ATM itself stands for Automatic Teller Machine.
THINK about what it is you're saying.
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I can post dozens of studies that support my claim. Scientists have always struggled with publishing their findings racial differences
Go for it. As I understood it (and read recently) most scientists regard racial theories as unsupported.
Remember civilisation is a type of culture, as is barbarism... Do you have proof that genetics is a factor (and the predominant one)? Specifically have there been genes identified for intelligence/compassion/whatever you deem necessary to civilisation, that are missing in black people?
It's not personal. It's just war.
kpo, You must be kidding. Start here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
The culture of the age that we live in is founded on a lie: racial egalitarianism. It is an article of faith in the West that all racial differences in abilities and personality stem from environmental, rather than biological, factors.
This dogma has been conventional wisdom among the Western elites since 1950, when the United Nations published its “Statement on Race,” which declared: “There is no proof that the groups of mankind differ in their intelligence or temperament. The scientific evidence indicates that the range of mental capacities in all ethnic groups is the same…. Genetic differences are not of importance in determining the social and cultural differences between different groups of Homo sapiens.” Link, p. 102.
In succeeding years this belief has entrenched itself. A 2003 documentary on PBS, entitled Race: The Power of an Illusion, expressed a view that is more or less entirely unchallenged today in the media and most of the academy: race is a myth constructed by whites to justify colonialism and slavery. The documentary urged viewers to take an environmentalist view of racial differences:
Try a paradigm shift. Every time the mind gropes toward the seemingly evident—that, say, black people are better at sports, or Asians at math and music—deconstruct it. Look for the social reasons, the economic reasons, the cultural reasons why these stereotypes only seem to hold true.1
So crucial is this lie to our society, and so weak the empirical support for it, that Western universities must silence those who contradict it. Two cases of such silencing have occurred over the last two years. After Frank Ellis, a lecturer in Russian and Slavonic studies at Leeds University in Britain, stated his belief in the reality of racial differences in the student newspaper, the university and local political elite immediately began calling for his dismissal. One local politician called Ellis’s views “narrow-minded, intellectually bankrupt, morally reprehensible nonsense.” He eventually chose early retirement after the university began disciplinary proceedings against him. A similar fate befell Australian professor Andrew Fraser after he declared his race realist views.
Race Differences in Intelligence
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The heart of race realism is recognizing this lie for what it is. Research on differences between the behavior of whites and blacks has decisively refuted the environmentalist view. Indeed, at least a large school, and perhaps even a majority, of specialists in the study of intelligence believe that the black-white gap in IQ is rooted in biology. There is also powerful evidence that blacks and whites differ innately in other respects, including sexual behavior and ability to defer gratification.
This article focuses on differences between whites and blacks because these differences have received the greatest amount of attention from scholars, not because they are the only, or even necessarily the most important, racial differences. Black-white differences are thus the best test of the validity of the innatist and environmentalist perspectives. Given the dominant role that genes play in determining behavior, it is likely that many of the differences among the cultures of the world have biological roots.
The Power of Genes
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BTW- some of my best friends are white, and I married a white dude, so I guess I'm not a racist either.
I thought you were Hungarian(?) - just on one side of the family...?
It's not personal. It's just war.
KPO, try this one...
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/TaxonomicConstruct.pdf
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Somewhere between 200,000 and 140,000 years ago, anatomically modern humans emerged in Africa and began their migration into the far corners of Europe and Asia. Naturally, different challenges and environments placed different evolutionary pressures on those who left and those who stayed behind. This resulted in a split between African and non-African humans approximately 110,000 years ago. Further environmental pressures resulted in yet another division, that between Caucasian and Mongoloid, approximately 41,000 years ago.
There were great differences in living conditions between Africa and Eurasia, differences which played a vital role in racial differentiation. While African life wasn't always a bed of roses, it was considerably easier than in the North. Between seeds, nuts, tubers and fruit, some type of edible plant material was available year round. Especially during the dry season, animals approaching watering holes could be easily ambushed and thrown on the cook fire. Comparatively little in the way of advanced planning was required for survival.
On the edges of the Northern ice sheets, plant material, if available at all could be found for only a few short months out of the year. Large game animals tended to move in vast annual migration patterns. Those who lacked foresight, who could not plan ahead, who could not delay gratification in the interest of personal and group survival, did not live. Nature, ruthless on the glacier's edge, selected for intelligence and cooperation.
The effects of this differential evolution are with us today. Numerous studies (Michael 1988, Montagu 1960, Beals 1984, Rushton 1993, etc.) have shown a consistent 9%-10% smaller cranial capacity in Negroes as compared to Caucasians. Other studies have found a direct correlation between cranial capacity and measured intelligence (Osborne 1992, Broman 1987, Rushton 1992). African-Americans average 15 IQ points lower than Caucasians, while pure Africans average 25 IQ points lower (Shuey 1966, Broman 1987, Lynn 1991, Owen 1989).
Rushton (1995) cites numerous studies which suggest sharply different social strategies between the races. The so-called "R-Strategy" is typical in Negro society both in Africa and around the world. Characteristics include a high birth rate coupled with a distinct lack of parental care. Offspring reach physical maturity fairly rapidly and generally begin sexual experimentation at a relatively early age. Monogamy is often the exception rather than the rule. The level of social organization is low, and, not surprisingly, Black countries tend to have the highest rates of both AIDS and violent crime in the world. It should be noted that, in the United States, African-Americans comprise approximately 12% of the population, while, according to FBI statistics, they commit 70% of the violent crime.
The "K-Strategy," observed in Caucasian and Mongoloid cultures, takes pretty much the opposite course. Parents have fewer offspring, but invest more effort in their care, resulting in a lower rate of infant mortality. Children mature more slowly but, as we observed earlier, use that slower maturation in part to develop higher potential intelligence. Family units tend to be more stable, and both social organization and altruism are important factors in family, ethnic and national life.
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This was published in the wall street journal...that's a lot of names
http://www.cpsimoes.net/artigos/bell_mainstr.html
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This was published in the wall street journal...that's a lot of names
http://www.cpsimoes.net/artigos/bell_mainstr.html
Kaneman,
This subject is far too taboo. While in college I did a paper on the "Bell Curve" and almost got myself thrown out.
Yes, That there are racial differences in intelligence is fact. (Anyone who claims otherwise is either uninformed or purposely ignorant. The environment argument has been debunked by every study every time). I'll give you that. The findings on racial differences have been covered up for a variety of reasons. Bigots like you use this for selfish reasons. Why worry about 15 basis points? Is the black guy down the street any less HUMAN than you? What is your point? Want to kill all non-whites? Of course not. So why bother discussing it.
Edit. Kaneman. I just realized you did not start this thread.
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Originally posted by peacekeeper:Semantics Rappy!!. And pedantic on your part.
Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!
Nothing semantical about it , in the least. Far too often , folks will use the wrong words, lumping them in together with a usual suspects, so as to try to multiply their impact, when all they're doing is repeating crap their heard others say, while not actually thinking about what it is they're saying.
Like when folks say ATM machine, when ATM itself stands for Automatic Teller Machine.
THINK about what it is you're saying.
I have THOUGHT about it, which is why I chose to use the word "Discriminatory" instead of "Racist". You know exactly what it is that I am trying to say, but you are just using "Semantics" to make a stubborn point.So I will make it easy for you.We are all, in some form or another, INHERENTLY RACIST.What makes us progressive and more intelligent than the overt proponents of this, is to accept our failings and ATTEMPT to reconcile those thoughts with some enlightened civility.I use the word "Discriminatory" simply because it sounds less offensive.So I am saying that I probably accept that I am a racist, but I don't like it and try to compensate by applying some educated logic and reason so as to not offend my fellow man.So yes, you are being pedantic and my argument still stands. As for using the "Redundant noun" argument(ATM), I fail to see the relevance.We all do that as well. It is purely a technical point on English grammar. It has nothing to do with this argument.As I said,INVALID.
You cannot prove that you are not a racist OR discriminatory. Because all of us are both.We can only TRY to temper ourselves so as to achieve self awareness and compromise on that fact. Now does THAT answer your original question?
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Originally posted by peacekeeper:Semantics Rappy!!. And pedantic on your part.
Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!
Nothing semantical about it , in the least. Far too often , folks will use the wrong words, lumping them in together with a usual suspects, so as to try to multiply their impact, when all they're doing is repeating crap their heard others say, while not actually thinking about what it is they're saying.
Like when folks say ATM machine, when ATM itself stands for Automatic Teller Machine.
THINK about what it is you're saying.
Now go back and proofread yourself. THINK about what you're typing. If you're going to lecture others on words and claim that words matter, you really should see to your own house first. Your posts are generally a word salad of unrelated and incorrect wording ("a usual suspects", "what so ever", "crap their heard others say", etc.).
You really are in no position to lecture anyone on... well, ANYTHING - especially grammar and vocabulary!
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