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Firefly Hater!

POSTED BY: Horkus
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 03:07
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Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:19 AM

Now, not that I'm going to call him names or anything. . . but I would like to point out in the interest of fairness that my namesake, Citizen Corporal DeSangro, was not a nice lady. She was big, tough, mean, and had a fletchette gun and knew how to use it.

Just keep that in mind.

However, he did give "Dark City" a good review, so I'll let him slide on that. And everyone's entitled to their own opinion, though I noticed that all the Firefly links led right back to here. Either the poor man thinks that this is the official site, or he has something against us Browncoats.

And. . . I just checked the site, and yes, Virginia, he does have something against us. Why, I'll never know. I've never met the man. I've never insulted anything he enjoys.

You know, I used to like the X-Files. Then it jumped the shark somewhere around the 7th or 8th season, and I quit the fandom. But I don't spew vitriol against people who like the X-Files.

Why does he need to spew hatred against us? What have we done? I feel. . . injured.

Haken, I think that you should email him and ask him politely to take his link to your site down. I really in all honesty think this.

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:51 AM

get on those boards and jump his @$$!!!

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:53 PM

He put a reply in his forum.

http://pub26.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2172770707&cpv=1

Torrents anybody?

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:44 PM

I have to agree w/ him that some of the more colorful descriptions of him here in this thread are unnecessary and crude. Our conduct should be better than that, don't you think? No sense sinking to the mud slinging level to try to convince him we are right.

It seems that the impassioned arguements of our fellow Browncoats has caused him to be willing to at least view the DVD set now. That is more than most of the critics of Firefly are willing to do. Perhaps he will even become a browncoat.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:22 PM

According to his latest post:

Well...reading the premise on some of the "Firefly" sites, the show does seem interesting. I will give it shot.

It seems that we might just have won ourselves yet another convert.




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Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:23 PM

Right on, BronwCoat1! One need only have a glance at the various Talkbacks on, say www.aintitcool.com (not for the faint of heart; makes South Park look like NPR) to get a sense of what much on-line fandom is like. We can surely do better than that! (though, I must say, STATIC gave me a fun new word to play with, above ).

One of the things which has always distinguished the FF fans from some other fan communities I've encountered is their level of graciousness. We know we are backing a winning show, and "Serenity's" green-light is a marvelous vindication of that security (as if we needed it!). For us to become so enflamed over this bloke's comments actually weakens our position, and reduces the chances that someone will give the show a chance, since it lends itself to taking entrenched positions (the general problem with meeting force with force).

It sounds like he's willing to give the show a chance, and I'd bet my last credit that this is more because of our enthusiastic descriptions of FF than because we called him names. Actually, it sounds like we hurt his feelings a bit and, to his credit, he didn't take the counter-flame approach in the end. Score another one for the "you can catch more flies (fire or otherwise) with honey than with vinegar" camp.

Keep flyin'



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- RW Emerson/Johhny Fever (/Joss Whedon)

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:13 PM

I agree that it doesn't help our cause to become belligerent and insulting (regardless of whether or not the target deserves it). Also, I've looked at the site and it looks like a very small-time operation with few visitors -- let's not increase his visibility with all the commotion. If he responds to a handful of well articulated, reasoned arguments (e.g. over 1K reviews on Amazon, avg of 5 stars -- no other DVD/show has that) then great, if not then we should leave him alone with a record of our polite attempts to reason with him, so others less stubborn that stumble upon the thread in the future might be convinced to give it a try.

My 0.02 credits.

"I left my heart in Seren-ity Val-ley..." <-- the farthest I've ever gotten in writing filk. ;)

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:06 PM

Wow, someone insulting something they've never seen and causing a rukus.....sounds a little familiar somehow. Kinda like the 'verse is holding up a mirror. There was something similar here with I,Robot. Hopefully at this point he'll watch a few eps, get hooked and print a full retraction. Or maybe he won't get the full beauty of this work of art we call Firefly, his loss. It won't stop me from loving it.

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:34 PM

I reared my lurking head long enough to direct him to where he could find a torrent. Up to him if he goes to get one or finds the DVD's some other way. There used to be a sight that had episodes in .wmv or .mpg for download? Anyone have that available to point him toward if its still active?

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Friday, July 16, 2004 7:14 PM

Looks another hater on the board.

http://pub26.bravenet.com/forum/2172770707/show/259688

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