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POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
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I am sad you won't reply, Wulf.
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My answer would be "why"?
Do we really have to reorganize our entire society to placate a small percentage of it? Really?
Marriage IS a religious institution. However, to be properly unioned, you still have to get a license from the state.
So, in effect, allowing civil unions for gays, satisfys the needs of them, while protecting the role of religion and the seperation of church and state.
Sorry, but being gay doesnt buy you special compensation. Nor should being a minority or anything else.
But thats a different matter.
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The way it seems to me, either you declare the term "marriage" to be cultural and make it available to everyone, or it is strictly religious and you take it way out of the legal process of civil unions. For any couple.
Homosexual asking for the Exact Same Thing that heterosexuals have - not separate but equal - how is that asking for special treatment?
Way it seems now, you're arguing for heterosexuals to get the special treatment by being allowed to use a religious (thus inappropriate) term in legal matters where homosexuals may not. Straight couples aren't "unioned" by the state, they are married.
Personally, I think marriage is a cultural term rather than a religious one, so I see no reason why it should be restricted to religious use - and it obviously is not. If a religion that doesn't condemn homosexuality marries a homosexual couple, they still wouldn't get so call their legal union a marriage. That's hypocrisy at work.
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Marriage IS a religious institution. However, to be properly unioned, you still have to get a license from the state.
Is marraige really a religious institution, or has religion taken marraige and institutionalized it? If a man and a women go to City Hall to get married, is that marraige any less legitimate than a church wedding?
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You can go to the court and be unionized. TO be married, I.e. in the eyes of God, you fill out the paperwork for union with the state, then are married according to your religious beliefs.
How many here are married?
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So you "stand before the eyes of God" and vow "til death do us part." A few months later your wife or you cheat, and then you get a divorce. What about the promise you made to God? With 60% divorce rate, isn't that religious institution just a desperate clinging to something they really don't believe in anyhow? And how does one square it with God? After all, you made a testament in his house.
I've been married for 29 years. We got married in a church, but neither of us really attends much anymore.
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Again, it would help to understand who here is married or not.
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Wulf, unless they do NOT use the term marriage in the non-religious procedure for straight couples, I don't think you have a leg to stand on.
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
My answer would be "why"?
Do we really have to reorganize our entire society to placate a small percentage of it? Really?
Marriage IS a religious institution. However, to be properly unioned, you still have to get a license from the state.
So, in effect, allowing civil unions for gays, satisfys the needs of them, while protecting the role of religion and the seperation of church and state.
Sorry, but being gay doesnt buy you special compensation. Nor should being a minority or anything else.
But thats a different matter.
But being religious DOES? How is it treating gays "special" to treat them exactly the same? What you don't get is that it is YOU who is asking to treat gays "special", by singling them out to be called anything but married.
And how is saying a church CAN marry gays equated in your mind to saying that all churches MUST marry gays? If I'm Jewish, can I demand that a Catholic church performa Jewish wedding ceremony for me?
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Again, it would help to understand who here is married or not.
Well, I've been married to my wife since 1989, but we weren't married in a church, so by your definition, I suppose we aren't married. The IRS says otherwise, though. ;)
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