War Stories Torture Scene

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UPDATED: Thursday, July 8, 2010 12:59
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NARAITAMALEE

Monday, June 28, 2010 5:46 PM

I think it was a good scene, probably one of the most revealing about the characters of Wash and Mal. It was necessary and deep.

I still don't get why people would want to watch Heart of Gold over War Stories, even though its an okay episode. Its kind of heartbreaking, though.

Nothing in the 'verse can stop me.

FEARTHEBUNNYMAN

Monday, June 28, 2010 7:53 PM

Bytemite: wasn't Niska speaking polish? B/c I think the actor's polish...

Fun fact - he took an acting class with Miss Norma Jean herself back in the day, according to someone's old con report :)

ALIASSE

Monday, June 28, 2010 9:12 PM

I hated it. HATE-id it. It was sadistic.

CRAZYIVAN126

Monday, June 28, 2010 10:05 PM

I REALLY love this scene. It does come off as kind of campy at first, but as it progresses you can see how desperately Mal is trying to keep Wash conscious. It almost seems as if Mal is genuinely being an asshole until Wash actually starts to lose it. Then Mal starts yelling, making sure that he is staying awake and making him focus on their conversation. I don't think this scene is about Niska and his villainy. It's about Mal and Wash and this incredible challenge they have to get through together. Its about progressing their relationship.

MINCINGBEAST

Tuesday, June 29, 2010 4:59 AM

PN, I want to meet the real you.

well...yes, we met Niska earlier, and knew who he was when he got his torture on. Didn't feel like I met him, or wanted to kiss him, however, until he started torturing Mal and Wash. The real Niska wasn't introduced until he met the real Mal and Wash, you see?

Also, I hereby claim Niska for the Joos.

PIRATENEWS

Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:31 PM

Is it wrong that I like Niska, for his choice to risk blacklist by the Juice for The Reflecting Pool?

The Real Niska wants 9/11 Truth

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, July 5, 2010 9:56 AM

The torture scene? Where Mal wants to know if Niska is going to start torturing him by starting a Book Club? Wacky fun.

MAL4PREZ

Monday, July 5, 2010 6:13 PM

I love how Joss mixes dark and light, it is his particular genius. I appreciate how far he took it in this ep. I certainly wouldn't cut the scene for the world. It's truly unique.

My problem is, my discomfort is not caused by scary torture, or by the way Mal and Wash deal with it. My discomfort is that I can't quite dive into believing the fiction and worrying for the characters. The guiding hand of the writer who contrived this bizarre thing, and the actors who are playing it off, keeps smacking me in the face.

I do think Joss wanted it this way, since he seems to love walking that fine line between serious drama and self-parody. The balance isn't quite as perfect as usual here. Oh well. Overall, I still like it, helluva lot more than I like Heart of Gold!

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MAL4PREZ

Monday, July 5, 2010 7:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by beatupplenty:
mal4prez-that's a good picture of Nathan--I'm curious,where did you find that one?

I took it myself, while stalking the poor guy after a screen writer's guild picket line. That's Alan's guitar he's goofing on, BTW.

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REENACT12321

Monday, July 5, 2010 8:50 PM

Niska speaks Czech, though it's hard to hear, And PN... just.... You make Glen Beck look sane. Your work is sculpting reminiscent to that of Michaelangelo had his pet medium not been marble, nor stone but bullshit.

PS, haven't you ever seen Fiddler? just because of all the Soviet Russia jokes have been popular this year, it doesn't mean "In Soviet Russia Jew persecute you" Always entertaining though I must say.

As for the torture scene, the concept of goading Wash so as not to crumble is marvelous especially in the context of the episodes central conflict between Wash and Zoe. I do agree that the execution had its limitations, (the acting I mean not the ACTUAL execution, that was earlier). But there's only so much you can do. Plus remember this was on a network, some torture scene right out of The Wind that Shakes the Barley or Black Hawk Down would not have flown.

"...we need a hood ornament..."