Other colonies?

POSTED BY: ZeroArmour
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KAYNA

Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:25 PM

Well As to the Alliance, it may not have been formalized so much before they reach the galaxy they colonized but I think there was some sort of loose...agreement between the two major parties involved. Remember all the stuff about the Alliance beeing basically America and China all in one. They were the only two super powers or that got off the planet and to the Firefly galaxy so they became a single entity.

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CITIZEN

Friday, March 23, 2007 12:37 AM

I rather imagine that the ships are further apart than 12 kilometres, 12 thousand kilometres is point blank range at interplanetary velocities. And that's the point, these craft will be travelling at such great velocities it's going to take sometime to make up the distance. Space is a very different kettle of fish to a planetary atmosphere, for instance there's no reason Serenity couldn't travel just as fast as a small gun ship, and many reasons why it could accelerate harder and longer.

I also think the Alliance is not quite as bad as it is portrayed, we only ever see it through the eyes of criminals and people who hate the Alliance to the point that they once fought them in open warfare. As an analogy I wonder how detainees in Guantánamo Bay would view the USA compared to a US citizen. The point is we've never seen what the Alliance is like for people living in it, we've only seen one side of the story which is the story of it's enemies.

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ROJBLAKE

Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:21 AM

I find that an interesting point, so doing experimental brain surgery on a minor who is supposedly at an academy of higher learning is...a point of view problem?

Utilizing vid screens to survail the populace in every concievable locale & activity is just a safty precaution?

I don't mean to turn this into a political discussion, but beware the government who cares about you.

Let's not forget the attempt to weed out aggression...gun/crime control through adding drugs to air & water supplies...Ritalin anyone?

Remember too that another term for Science Fiction can also be referred to as Science Future...if man can think of it, he will most likely attempt to implement it.

The plot of the movie Serenity is not new, it's been done in Sci-Fi before (the whole pacification program thing) & I don't see it as an unrealistic attempt at controlling a people.

ROCKETJOCK

Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:55 AM

I've never bought the idea that the proto-alliance was the winner in whatever conflict (military or ideological) lead to the exodus from Earth. The winning side doesn't depart their home, even if it's going to crap.

Of course, that's not how they'd tell it--the Alliance is probably big on revisionist history, and keeping the history books consistent with this week's pravda is probably a major concern.

Chances are there are other colonies out there, but lacking FTL travel or long range FTL comm, it's unlikely we'd get to see any of them.

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ROCKETJOCK

Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:56 AM

Gorram double post.

KRELLEK

Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RojBlake:
I find that an interesting point, so doing experimental brain surgery on a minor who is supposedly at an academy of higher learning is...a point of view problem?

Utilizing vid screens to survail the populace in every concievable locale & activity is just a safty precaution?

I don't mean to turn this into a political discussion, but beware the government who cares about you.

Let's not forget the attempt to weed out aggression...gun/crime control through adding drugs to air & water supplies...Ritalin anyone?

Remember too that another term for Science Fiction can also be referred to as Science Future...if man can think of it, he will most likely attempt to implement it.

The plot of the movie Serenity is not new, it's been done in Sci-Fi before (the whole pacification program thing) & I don't see it as an unrealistic attempt at controlling a people.

Yeah that certainly is an interesting point, to have, as you mentioned about the brain surgery on a minor, supposed to be at a academy of higher learning(I wonder what would happen if Simon had not gotten her out, would she return home to the familly house, perhaps somewhat sane due to hypnozis, but have cold eyes that seems to look into your soul, but strangely silent all the time, and then sometimes at night maybe be found by the mother, father, or Simon, or perhaps the possible servants, sneaking out of the window seemingly to sneak out to a boy, but in fact taking on a mission for the government.

and then the whole Pax idea, also makes a chill go down my spine. and the obvious way some people talks about slavery/indentured servitude so openly, and the obvious indifference of the officer in The TrainJob then told about the missing medecine

GWEK

Thursday, July 1, 2010 1:55 AM

Seems to me it would be logical that mankind might've ended up somewhere besides the 'Verse, whether it's hardliners who refused to give up the home solar system, pioneers who didn't make it all the way out (after all, not everyone headed out West made it very far), or other attempts to go in different directions.

I've imagined that one possible ending for FIREFLY (had Joss gotten his seven season arc) might've gone something like this:

In Season Seven, we discover that part of Blue Sun's master plan is to create a sort of "telepathic supercomputer" powered by readers like River. This supercomputer would be designed to make contact with lost colonies (for some nefarious purpose or other), and in the last episode, River (and other readers) WOULD reach out and touch someone, discovering that there IS mankind beyond the 'Verse. The final moment of the show would be Mal taking Serenity out into a whole new black, heading out to see who else is out there, and if maybe that corner of the sky ain't quite so crowded.

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VILE

Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:00 PM

Other colonies? What for? Once they got rid of that lot with their salespeople and telephone sanitisers, Earth was a great place to be!

I don't see any problem with having other colonies, but there probably wouldn't be any knowledge of them in the 'Verse what with them being the first-goers and all.

No reason why at some point in the future another ship or fleet (either from Earth or from a later colony) shouldn't arrive in the 'Verse, though. Might make an interesting story arc.

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JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:39 PM

There's always the possibility of the existence of the 13th Colony, founded by the lost 13th tribe of Kobol.....oh sorry, wrong series!

KRELLEK

Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:08 PM

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Originally posted by Vile:
Other colonies? What for? Once they got rid of that lot with their salespeople and telephone sanitisers, Earth was a great place to be!

I don't see any problem with having other colonies, but there probably wouldn't be any knowledge of them in the 'Verse what with them being the first-goers and all.

No reason why at some point in the future another ship or fleet (either from Earth or from a later colony) shouldn't arrive in the 'Verse, though. Might make an interesting story arc.

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Too young to be an Urvile ...

well who know, maybe back on earth, some kind of UED(United Earth Directorate(StarCraft BroodWar))has after the breathing space that has been created by the greath exodus, begun a more systematic Colonization of the Sol System, and perhaps some other star systems that might not be that far away

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