War Stories Torture Scene

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ANOTHERSKY

Monday, June 28, 2010 2:28 AM

Love it or hate it?

And you gotta tell me why, folks.

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Going for a ride.

AURAPTOR

Monday, June 28, 2010 3:42 AM

Love it

Mal's goading of Wash and getting him pissed off at him, and there by keeping him from completely breaking down.... brilliant.

Still, not easy to watch.

MINCINGBEAST

Monday, June 28, 2010 4:33 AM

Absolutely love it, and not for improper and impure purposes.

The scene demonstrates distills Mal's finer qualities. It taught us that 1) Mal doesn't break and (even if he screams like a girl) and 2) Mal won't let his crew break, either.

And also, it introduced one of the best villains in the 'verse!

ANOTHERSKY

Monday, June 28, 2010 6:04 AM

(one of the) Reason I ask is it was my turn to supply the movie and of course I brought my shiny set o' firefly. Group flat-out refused to watch War Stories because it was "stupid" and the torture scene was "super corny".

I just wondered if it was just me thought Mal was trying to get Wash mad enough to not break down.

Then again, they did want to watch Heart of Gold.

So my base could be completely off.

SYDNEYDEBS

Monday, June 28, 2010 8:57 AM

I love War Stories, it's one of my favourite episodes and a lot of that is the torture scene. I don't know why but I love a beaten and bleeding Mal but Wash with his "he's not getting days" is pretty terrific too.

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FEARTHEBUNNYMAN

Monday, June 28, 2010 2:21 PM

I liked the scene b/c of what it showed us about Mal's character, however I did think the execution was a little hammy. Alan and Nathan were camping it up a bit, or that's how it came across.

PIRATENEWS

Monday, June 28, 2010 3:22 PM

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Originally posted by mincingbeast:

And also, it introduced one of the best villains in the 'verse!

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RIVERDANCER

Monday, June 28, 2010 5:16 PM

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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
it introduced one of the best villains in the 'verse!

I'm pretty sure that villain was introduced in the first aired episode of the series.

This is not my favorite scene. The episode in general is not my favorite. It's not my least favorite, either, but it isn't in my top five. I wouldn't say that's because it's corny, though. I think it went on a little too long, I think the actors were tired and maybe not performing at their best, and Niska's near-expressionless enjoyment was not quite creepy and not quite... whatever the antonym of creepy is.
I thought the episode got interesting when Zoe walked in to do the exchange. Up until then I was not so interested.

BYTEMITE

Monday, June 28, 2010 5:28 PM

Ack, I missed this yesterday somehow, even though I was looking for it. o.0

Hmmm... It's a very uncomfortable scene, obviously. Part of that's the torture, but, part of it's also kind of the electricity thing, makes it feel kind of silly. The absurdity of Mal and Wash's fight, while intentional, kind of highlights the absurdity of the torture, rather than juxtaposes the two wildly different moods (light banter, dark torture).

BYTEMITE

Monday, June 28, 2010 5:33 PM

I forget what language it is Niska speaks, but it's not straight Russian. It's something from one of the Former Soviet Republics, probably Chechnya. Which itself is a stereotype stemming from a long and illustrious history of Chechens in crime.

He might be Jewish, though, they do orbit the planet Ezra.

Probably less relevant than he's a stereotypical crime boss.

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