Rand Paul sing his own dirge

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Originally posted by SignyM:
...it was created to be a democracy to represent "We the people", not "We the CEOs". . Apparently Rand Paul doesn't know much about US history.

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If Rand doesn't know much , that seems to mean that SignyM must not know anything :


ARTICLE 4
Clause 1: Republican government
“ The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government ”

This clause, sometimes referred to as the Guarantee Clause, has historically been a part of the debate about the rights of citizens vis-a-vis state governments. The Constitution offers no explanation as to what constitutes a republican government; however, the Federalist Papers give us an insight as to the intent of the Founders.

A republican form of government is distinguished from a pure democracy, which the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid; as James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 10, "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Four_of_the_United_States_Constit
ution

http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/aspects/demrep.html

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"Who kills doctors to "save" the lives of the unborn?"

Hello,

I do not think it is just to smear 'the Republicans' with this action, as it was the act of unbalanced extremists, not 'the Republicans.'

I don't think the Republican party condones murder.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Sure it does, Anthony. It always has.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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The debate is rapidly descending into the abyss.

Can we track back to federalism for a second. I think there was a pretty strong dissenting opinion on that, though I agree the US was never a democracy, was never intended to be, and that democracy is just a terrible form of govt, and even that the world would be a lot better off if we had all accepted that after athens attacked sparta.

But that aside, I think there are some matters of discussion warranted as to what the founders intended the US to be. I will through this one in "democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner" Ben Franklin.

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Hello,

I remember reading a lot about the 'tyranny of the majority' and it seems the founding fathers intended to stack the deck in such a way as to decrease the threat of such tyranny. I'm not sure they succeeded.

What we have currently is a representative government where bribery is legal.

I'm not sure how to fix it.

Jefferson seems to have been aware of the problem. Didn't he worry about the power of money (greed) to destroy the nation? Wasn't it he that recommended a regular cycle of civil war to keep the big wigs honest? His solution isn't workable, but the suggestion seems to indicate that the essential problems of government were well known to him.

I haven't heard any breakthroughs in political science that would give us a trouble-free/maintenance-free government free from abuses.

It seems we are left to debate only the least evil of the evil options at our disposal.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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