Afghan war now longest in US history
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Friday, September 19, 2025 19:30
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Cause it provides that handy "external threat", complete with the ability to hold up that asshole Osama Been Forgotten (who's long dead, and everyone knows it) as some kind of modern day Emmanual Goldstein to keep up the booga-booga.
Only problem with it is, you can only cry wolf for so long, and the american people have divided into three camps over it, those who see through it, and are pissed about it, those who believe it, and are throwing a hissy cause we're not staging a new crusade to cleanse the world of infidels and heretics (which is kinda the same problem facing the OTHER guys, proving all politicians are essentially the same) and the last, and most dangerous group, the folks who know it's bullshit, but bang the drum and scream themselves cause they want an excuse to do evil with official sanction.
Watching the political extremes march further and further apart, I am pointedly reminded of the 10 paces of a pair of duelists, and I wonder if that's actually gonna happen here - it's not like many of these folks can be reasoned with, sadly.
-Frem
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Afghanistan is where they should have gone first, if they wanted to root out those who caused 9/11.
It was. The U.S. went in over a full year before heading into Iraq, for nothing to do w/ 9/11.


" Being correct does not excuse a violation of form " - Ducky, NCIS.
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Quote:Why then, oh Professor of history? To get back our weapons?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
The U.S. went in over a full year before heading into Iraq, for nothing to do w/ 9/11.

The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:I hate them. You hate them.
Originally posted by Niki2:
Certainly the Taliban makes a good enemy to hate
We all scream for ice cream!
We *REALLY* need to sit Obama down in front of a big TV & show him Serenity at this point.


The laughing Chrisisall
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Wait wait wait! Jeez Chris, don't snark yet. AURaptor just said that he doesn't think 9-11 had anything to do with going into Iraq. I'd like to hear more.
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Quote:No you don't.
Originally posted by Bytemite:
AURaptor just said that he doesn't think 9-11 had anything to do with going into Iraq. I'd like to hear more.


The laughing Chrisisall
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Frem,
Osama is emannuel goldstein, as he has been, but if so, he's not there to recruit the american people, but you knew that already. I agree he's no longer among the quick. It comes back to us not really wanting to win. As for the other side, I think at the moment, they're all gaming tomb someones allies, mostly ours, through one branch or another of our hopelessly disorganized madhouse, so they can get free weapons, cash, and have us look away while they run their little side business.
Nikita
It would be possible for a trained monkey to convince Bush that he should invade new Mexico. This is a man who fed a live wire into a cars fuel tank, and who thinks that you use a hammer by the head.
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I live for disappointment.
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This is a man who fed a live wire into a cars fuel tank
Really?
There goes my argument for holding him as accountable as the rest of them.
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Fox News Makes Excuse for CIA’s Afghan Opium Cultivation
In an amazing propaganda segment, Fox News’ Gerald Rivera talks with an occupation soldier about U.S. support of the opium trade in Afghanistan. The soldier tells Rivera he does not like supporting Afghan opium production. The U.S., he insists, has turned a blind eye to the cultivation because it is a cultural thing. He’d rather the Afghans grow watermelons.

Is it possible the U.S. will tell the brother of Afghanistan’s U.S.-installed ruler he should get in the watermelon business?
It was reported a few months ago that Ahmed Wali Karzai was on the CIA payroll and intimately involved in the opium trade Fox News and the rest of the corporate media tell us is run by the evil Taliban.

Fox News did not report that before everything changed on September 11, 2001, and before the U.S. invaded Afghanistan, the Taliban had imposed a ban on opium production. This resulted in opium production collapsing by more than 90 per cent. It was the U.S. supported Northern Alliance that came to the rescue and began protecting the production of raw opium.
“CIA-supported Mujahedeen rebels [who in 2001 were part of the Northern Alliance] engaged heavily in drug trafficking while fighting against the Soviet-supported government and its plans to reform the very backward Afghan society,” William Blum writes in The Real Drug Lords.
Under the interim government of Hamid Karzai, opium poppy cultivation once again began to skyrocket and opium markets were restored.

According to the United Nations Drug Control Program (UNDCP), opium cultivation increased by 657 per cent in 2002 in relation to its 2001 level. The UNDCP estimated 2002 opium poppy cultivation would cover an area between 45,000 and 65,000 hectares. Opium cultivation in 2001 had fallen to an estimated 7,606 hectares. According to the UN, in 2006 alone Afghanistan supplied 92 percent of the world’s supply of opium (see Apratim Mukarji’s Afghanistan: From Freedom to Terror, p. 22-23).
“The Golden Crescent drug trade, launched by the CIA in the early 1980s, continues to be protected by US intelligence, in liaison with NATO occupation forces and the British military. In recent developments, British occupation forces have promoted opium cultivation through paid radio advertisements,” Michel Chossudovsky wrote in 2007.

“Respected people of Helmand. The soldiers of ISAF and ANA do not destroy poppy fields,” the radio promo said. “They know that many people of Afghanistan have no choice but to grow poppy. ISAF and the ANA do not want to stop people from earning their livelihoods.” This is basically the same excuse used by the soldier interviewed by Geraldo.
James Risen writes in State of War. “In fact, the White House and Pentagon went out of their way to avoid taking on the Afghan drug lords from the very outset of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan.”
Not mentioned is the fact that more than 95 percent of the revenue generated by opium production is siphoned off to business syndicates, organized crime and banking and financial institutions.
“In many instances, drug money is currently the only liquid investment capital,” said Vienna-based UNODC Executive Director Antonio Maria Costa said last January. “In the second half of 2008, liquidity was the banking system’s main problem and hence liquid capital became an important factor.”

Former Managing Director and board member of Wall Street investment bank Dillon Read, Catherine Austin Fitts, has long alleged that the banksters launder imponderable amounts of drug
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US soldiers smoke heroin in Aghan Opium War
http://aminwahidi.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-happened-to-opium-war.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_War_(2008_film)
Trailer OSAMA by same director of OPIUM WAR:
http://www.alltrailers.net/osama.html
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