Serenity VS. Star Wars Ep. III??

POSTED BY: arcbeatle
UPDATED: Monday, July 12, 2004 02:42
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ARCBEATLE

Saturday, July 10, 2004 9:47 PM

Now the thing is that we need to start maing a website like that soon... It would be rather awesome.

Im willing to help write articles and or advertize.

If people only beleive wahts in a movie, their damn well sure beleiving Serenity.

STANDING8

Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:39 PM

i could care less about star wars III! episodes I and II were nothing special. they were okay to watch, ONCE. the new ones dont hold a candle to the older ones. and i am by no means a star wars guy, never was.

i just want serenity to do very well. i hope just crappy movies come out the same week as serenity.

-Soul Rebel-

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TRASK43

Sunday, July 11, 2004 12:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SlayThis:
The release dates are actually closer to being one month apart, and although a month may not seem like much, it is enough time that the two movies will not be directly competing for box office dollars, and financially, both films will be successful. The biggest difference between the movies is that one of them has the potential to effectively launch a franchise while the other has the potential to effectively lay a franchise to rest.
Serenity will likely have an opening weekend that, although not necessarily record-breaking, will be great enough to easily convince Universal to greenlight a sequel. After that, between fan buzz and positive reviews (yes - positive reviews. Joss has been given full reign which should quell any concerns that this film will succumb to Hollywoodization, and any educated film critic will recognize the blessing of a sci-fi action flick in which the spectacle of the movie, however magnificent it may be, does not supercede the plight and dynamic of its truly original characters,) the fan-base will most likely expand, and this will cause the B.O. receipts to not dwindle quite as rapidly as with other movies as the converts will continue to trickle in. The current fan base is truly phenomenal considering the opportunities given the show's survival by Fox, but there are still a large number of people who will be introduced to Firefly by happening upon a Serenity trailer before a movie, and keep in mind that good trailers can persuade somebody to give a movie a try. Plus there are all the folks who are being told to check out the best TV series they've never seen. For some, the release of the movie may be the push they need. Serenity will have a good box office run; it's sequel will have an even better run.
Star Wars will also have a good run - perhaps even a better run than Serenity, given the expanse of it’s fandom over the past 25 years, which, as hard as some people may try to resist, is still enduring. It won't break any records, including its own. The prequels have turned off more fans than they have engaged. A lot of people will see it, though they will have widely varying reactions, unlike Serenity, which will be largely enjoyed by most of its audience. A significant difference, though, is that people who had not necessarily planned on seeing Star Wars will not have their minds changed by the reviews or the buzz or the trailers. And although it is certainly established enough to draw in a huge crowd, nobody will demand that Lucas make another one. Nobody will miss new Star Wars movies, but the ever-increasing Browncoats will crave more offerings from Joss.

That's my peace. Please forgive me if this was long-winded, I'm a relative newb to internet forums; I just love Firefly too much to not get in on the action.

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That was a good read hopefully most of it will come true.

I think its important to not turn the whole Serenity/Star Wars thing into to much of a competition. If its percieved as a competition by Star Wars fans we might find that a few of them boycott Serenity which would obviously be pretty disapointing from our point of view.

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KURUKAMI

Sunday, July 11, 2004 7:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kohan:
no matter how cool a lightsaber is, I think I'm at heart a browncoat before I am a Jedi.

of course I can always be a jedi wearing a browncoat.....

Wow. That just inspired me to come up with an entirely new signature. Thanks, Kohan!

Oh, and for all those who might be curious in setting up that website, drop me an email at kurukami_nospam_@comcast.net (just take out the _nospam_ part

). I've got pretty decent coding skills, if we want to actually get this project rolling.

Ben Kenobi was a browncoat.

CSSTROWBRIDGE

Sunday, July 11, 2004 8:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by arcbeatle:
acording too the approximate release date of Serenity, and the release date of the last star wars movie, Wont serenity be coming out just a week or two before StarWars?? There are two ways to take this:

1.Serenity will catch the Market, and get the starwars audiance ahead of time, cutting into star wars's gross

2. Serenity wont take in much money, as many people will be waiting for their long awaited Ep. III, going with the old favorite instead of the new guy.

Comments? Questions?

There's almost a month between them, so the one won't really affect the other.

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IAMJACKSUSERNAME

Sunday, July 11, 2004 11:53 AM

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I think its important to not turn the whole Serenity/Star Wars thing into to much of a competition. If its percieved as a competition by Star Wars fans we might find that a few of them boycott Serenity which would obviously be pretty disapointing from our point of view.

I couldn't agree more trask43.
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RIJRUNNER

Sunday, July 11, 2004 1:27 PM

It's really not much of a competition. Firefly will likely pull in good ratings it's first week. Most sci-fi movies do. The difference would be the following week. A lot of sci-fi movies drop 50-75% of their audience the following week. Serenity, if it holds true to form, will likely hold steady, or increase, the following week with good word of mouth. In any case, the main goal here is to make the kind of movie which makes people want to see twice in a theater, then buy the DVD.

Look at Gattaca. Came out the same year as Alien 4. Which DVD is more likely to be on your shelf?

Star Wars is a different thing completely. There *isn't* a competition when it comes down to it. Star Wars is going to slam the box office when it is released. Firefly is going to be compared to it and the comparison is likely to be in Serenity's favor when it comes down to story, plot, and just being a bteer movie. But, Star wars is going to be much more commercial a movie.

And then there is the other point: Does anyone ever save up two weeks to spend $7 on a movie ticket? If there is a really good movie showing that week, you go see it. Another movie in two weeks makes no difference, at all.

CERVANIA

Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:12 PM

I still think it well do relatively well. I myself have already convinced my husband (A devout SW fan of umteen years) to watch the BDM at least 3 times before we step foot into a dollar theater to watch SW.

I believe SW III will be a commercial success to a point. It won't be the huge blockbuster that Lucas wants. It won't be breaking any box office records.

Of course SW has had decades to build a loyal fan base. But many of the fans no longer "love" Lucas because of all the crap he's done to the series. I, myself, a former SW fan.

And with any luck, Lucas will crawl back under the rock from which he came and think about what he's done to, the once wonderful, Star Wars Saga.

Afterthought: Yes some people do have to save a few weeks in advance to go a movie. Family of four to a movie? You are talking almost 50 bucks for a matinee with popcorn and drinks to keep the kiddies quiet. 50 bucks aint cheap. That's a month's worth of gas.

I, myself, will probably spend 50 bucks in tickets ,in one month, just for myself.

-Cervania

"Small is the number of them that see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts" -A. Einstein

KOHAN

Monday, July 12, 2004 1:04 AM

lol... ^^

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YANKSNO1

Monday, July 12, 2004 2:42 AM

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Originally posted by gnoc:
Unfortunatly, I don't think Serenity has a chance vs Starwars. Star Wars is a kid/young person moive.. that is what lucas turned it in to. He has the toy market, the cartoons on Cartoon Network.. it is very popular with the kids.

Now, that said, I want Serenity to be geared for an older popuation. I don't see a reason that the older star wars fans (me included) cannot enjoy both movies. I can assure you , I have taken the day off from work to stand in line for the midnight showing of Ep 1 and Ep 2 (of which I loved both) and I will be in line for Ep 3. If they have a midnight of Serenity, I will be there also.

I don't see why we should boycott SW, you might turn away some of the die hard sw fans who might really like Serenity.

I hope Serenity does well with all of the Sci Fi popularity that grows during a star wars release.

My 2 yen

Very well said. I for one will be in line (actually I'll buy tickets over the web so I won't have to wait in line) and see it at the midnight showing of Ep III. When I saw Ep II at midnight, I had the funnest time ever seeing a movie (with the other Star Wars fans). It was great.

I'm a fan of both and think that the older Star Wars gen will really like Serenity. With it opening up early it should geek up the Star Wars fans for Star Wars and make a boatload of money. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.

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