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Star Wars for the next generation

POSTED BY: khambilo
UPDATED: Friday, May 7, 2010 15:28
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Wednesday, May 5, 2010 1:44 AM

I'm right there with Zeek and Deranged Milk Inc.

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Originally posted by lwaves:
To then have it all explained took away that magic to some degree.



When in the Hells did the prequels ever explain anything?

Why are the Jedi and Darksides (I'm NOT calling them Sith) fighting? No, “We’ve always been at war” is not an answer.

Who exactly ordered the clones?

In order to give the plot the *illusion* of depth, they (Lucas and the ‘yes’ people) just made it confusing and senseless. What ever explanations they did give - I'm trying to put this as eloquently as I can - they just sucked.

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DMI
Wednesday, May 5, 2010 3:52 AM

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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
Deranged Milk Inc.



LMAO! That tickles me so much. Not that it matters at all but it was supposed to be derangedmilk incognito. Not that it matters at all, I just lost the original handle. But seeing as I'm not really hiding, maybe DM Inc. is good too. Or if I lose this one I'll go with DME: derangedmilk esquire.

Anyway, one thing they explained in the prequels that ruined the magic was the whole metacholreine thing. It was just so star trek of them to make up some bs science to devalue the faith base of a super natural power. Shame!

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Wednesday, May 5, 2010 5:20 AM

Oh my gawd,

Revenge of the Sith was on tv the other night and I managed to watch about 7 minutes before Anakin started whining to Palpatine, "I'll...I'll do...anything you say...just don't let...Padme...die!"

Yeah, Darth Vader, the biggest badass the universe has ever seen, went over to the dark side because his girlfriend got sick and died. Yeah, that explains everything.

Hopefully, the next gen can skip ep's I-III in favor of playing KOTOR and SW:TOR--that's gonna be the real Star Wars to them--the old movies are gonna be hokey and quaint like Buck Rogers is to us...

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Wednesday, May 5, 2010 5:57 AM

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Originally posted by DMI:
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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
Deranged Milk Inc.


LMAO! That tickles me so much. Not that it matters at all but it was supposed to be derangedmilk incognito.


Well, if you abbreviate 'incognito', it makes sense.
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Anyway, one thing they explained in the prequels that ruined the magic was the whole metacholreine thing. It was just so star trek of them to make up some bs science to devalue the faith base of a super natural power. Shame!


Damn straight.

Metachlorians made the Force some genetic "Divine Right", instead of about freeing your mind and getting intouch with your feelings. Supposed to be one of those "If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything" things.

Conceived by metachlorians. BWAHHAHAHAAHAHAAA!!!


After 20+ years of waiting for new SW movies (Only 5 yrs for me. Didn't discover SW till 1995.), the story is carp (sic).

Ditto with Indy 4


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Wednesday, May 5, 2010 9:17 AM

A) I,II and III; then the prequels.

or

B) What Zeek said

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Hmmmmmm, tough choice............................

I'm gonna go with B, what Zeek said.



SGG

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Wednesday, May 5, 2010 1:46 PM

I don't really get the "Greedo shot" thing. In the original, original Star Wars he clearly had his gun out and pointing at Solo when he forced Solo back into the cantina to sit down at the table. And while they were talking Greedo kept his gun trained on Solo. If Solo fired first, or Greedo fired first really doesn't matter, because Greedo initiated the deadly action by holding Solo at gunpoint in the first place.


As for future viewings, I think a person must watch 4,5,6 first. Those are great movies, and as someone above said previously, they created a lot of mystery and suspense about many aspects of the "verse" of the film. 1,2, & 3 strip away the mystery in the most predicatbale and pedestrian ways possible, therefore completely ruining the overall experience.

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DMI
Wednesday, May 5, 2010 2:34 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I don't really get the "Greedo shot" thing. In the original, original Star Wars he clearly had his gun out and pointing at Solo when he forced Solo back into the cantina to sit down at the table. And while they were talking Greedo kept his gun trained on Solo. If Solo fired first, or Greedo fired first really doesn't matter, because Greedo initiated the deadly action by holding Solo at gunpoint in the first place.



In the original, Greedo doesn't fire at all, Solo just wastes him. In the special addition, Lucas edited in Greedo shooting first/at the same time because he didn't want Solo to be viewed as a murderer but instead wanted him to just be defending himself. My problem is, it makes Solo less badass. It'd be like Whedon going back to do a special edition cut of firefly and editing it so that Dobson shoots at Mal instead of Mal just no-nonsense putting a bullet in his head because he doen't have time for Dobson's crap anymore.

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Wednesday, May 5, 2010 3:01 PM

And Han's whole arc in the trilogy was that he was murderous, drug-running, criminal scum when we first meet him --his exposure to Luke and Leia changes him. That's the whole point of an arc.

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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
When in the Hells did the prequels ever explain anything?


When they explicitly identified Anakin Skywalker as Darth Vader and confirmed that Darth Vader is the father of both Luke and Leia.

The whole narrative of the original trilogy hinges on those two revelations --there's a reason why That Scene in ESB is one of the most famous scenes in all of cinema. It has to come completely out of the blue, yet make perfect sense only in hindsight, and it raises the stakes to a personal level for Luke (it's not just about killing a monster, it's about identifying with the "monster" and realizing that he has that same potential within himself).

By making it explicit, the prequels actually manage to rob the OT of that dramatic impact.

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Wednesday, May 5, 2010 3:49 PM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
When they explicitly identified Anakin Skywalker as Darth Vader and confirmed that Darth Vader is the father of both Luke and Leia.


*Y-wing port engine gets stunned/disabled*

Ok, that's a pretty huge thing, if you're starting with E1. (Well, I DID ask a question.)

Damn, that's a tough thing to fix for when I make my version of the prequels.

Hmmm....

Maybe the "two fathers, one son" thing, where Obi-Wan or Anakin could be the father, but we don't find out until later.


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Wednesday, May 5, 2010 3:59 PM

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Originally posted by khambilo:
When Episode III came out in 2005, this became the first generation that could watch the Star Wars saga chronologically. The question is though what order will you show the Star Wars films to your children? IV, V, V, I, II, II like you did? Or in chronological order?




Well I don't have kids yet, but my nephews are well into it. They don't have the hang-ups about the prequels like we do, so when/if I do have kids I'll be showing them in order and if the Clone Wars are done by then I'll put those in the mix too as they are great.

I think people have gone way over the top as regards episode I, II and III. They're not that bad and y'know really they're just films.

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