if the show didnt get cancelled, who do you think wouldve been the first to die?

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POPEBOB

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 5:31 PM

I think that none of the cast would die untill the Final episode.. then everone would get axed in one fell swoop. Whne that Final season would have been who knows.. but i guarantee you that if that was indeed going to be the case.. it would have been a 2 hour finale, all guns a blazin'

I think we would have found out about Book being Ex-Alliance Black Ops, and that he acctualy is a Preacher seeking redemtion for his past. I think the Hands-o-Blue, twins would have caught up to River about the end of season 2 and she would "Kill them with her Brain" and then later in say Season 5 she would actualy have her chance to show her true potential and strike up a Telepathic raport with the Reavers and give Mall the Army he needs to strike back at the alliance in a Second Browncoat Rebelion.

Perhaps a little fanciful but not completley absurd.

Simon and Kaylee would get Married about Season 4. Zoe would suffer a grevious wound some wehere along the way and be unable to have children like her and Wash had wanted. Inara would leave the ship but not the Show. She would probaly end up being an anchor for safe haven for the crew of Serenity on whatever world she left for. Jayne would get a letter from his sister telling of his mom's death. I figure this would probably happen in the Same episode that Inara leaves and they would swap Inara for Jayne's sister. Oh the fun that could be had with that idea. The tension between Mal and Inara would be swaped for good ol fasioned sibling Rivalry. I think we would see at least one more episode with Yo/Saph/Brige an quite a few with Niska and Badger.

Thats my thoughts. maybe you agree.. but Only Joss knows the answers.

Ahhhh.. Curse you sudden but inevitable betrayal!!

DUKE

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 5:54 PM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I think losing any of the cast would be like amputating a limb: it would cripple the show.

That's true to an extent. However, I beleive that Firefly benefited from a genuine sence of immediacy and danger.

Unlike the various Treks, where we always know that the bridge crew is safe and only the red shirts die, Firely came, for me at least, with no built in safety nets.

I mean, I really beieved that Jayne was going to get dumped out that airlock....

"I'll be in my bunk..."

PURPLEBELLY

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by liz:
but i find it terribly interesting that there is a theory for everyone in the cast except Kaylee.

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Purplebelly's Denouement

There's a sense in which Kaylee as we love her dies; she stops being cheerful, she can no longer maintain her good girl, Serenity. Hers is the cruelest end, because she is fully aware of it.

RELFEXIVE

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 6:33 PM

All great ideas there.

But Jayne... Imagine: the crew gets betrayed, it's so obviously, clearly Jayne, and Mal gets a mite tetchy and kills him.

Only it wasn't Jayne, of course.

So... who was it? duh duh DUUHH!!

All a bit obvious, of course.

Mal: "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so... very... pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die."

HATEHATEHATEFOX

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 7:48 PM

I think it would have been Wash too.

The "NoooooooOOOOOOOOooooooo" factor is very high when you think about him getting iced and we all know how that tickles JW. Plus, it allows you to keep the remainder of the characters in place.

If Zoe were to die, it seems unlikely that Wash would stick around. He was highly sought after as a pilot (as we hear in OoG) and has demonstrated that he chafes under Mal's rule. So by killing Zoe, you'd be losing 2 characters in effect, imho.

And, as another poster mentioned it adds all kinds of new and exciting emotions all around the ship.

Mal has to be all practical and stuff and get himself a new pilot. The new pilot will have to face the inevitable and probably waspish comparisons to Wash's piloting skills. Plus watching him/her just trying to fit into the dynamic would be very interesting as well.

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Nothing is ever so profoundly regretted as a kind act.
Robertson Davies

MANWITHPEZ

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 11:42 PM

Personally, I'm for the Jayne side of dying first. But, it being Joss, he would've done something horrible, and then something fantastic to redeem himself, and everyone would've been torn up by it. Especially if he fell to Reavers, since he's the most fear he's shown on the show was about them. I mean just a really, horrible, messy death the the crwe had no other option but to leave him to it. Yeah, that sounds about right to me.

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

JK

Thursday, July 8, 2004 1:14 AM

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Death is not the disadvantage that it used to be.

It doesn't screw your career up like it used to ;)

Wash is probably a good bet, although I am now in love with this image of Zoe dying. Her getting shot during some wacky fun. Her being not long pregnant. Her demanding that Simon keep her alive until they can steal the mechanical womb needed to keep their child alive, because there's just no hope for her. It taking quite a few episodes for her to finally snuff it. Wash staying because, hey, Serenity is what's keeping his child alive (you can't unplug these big unwieldy mechanical wombs, you know). Also, Zoe telling Wash that he has to stay, for some reason as yet unknown to me. The tension between Mal and Wash racking up to unimagined heights. Kaylee grieving for Zoe but loving the baby.

I doubt that would have happened. But if it were my show, it would have happened.

Kaylee can't be the one to die, though, because she's the heart of the story. As Joss has said so many times, if Kaylee says someone is good or bad or whatever, the audience believes that someone is good or bad or whatever. You can't lose that. Nor could you lose Mal; it is, at the end of the day, his story. He's why everyone is there, after all.

Jayne's a tricky one. It's true that there's a use-by date on his story; either he betrays them or he 'joins' them, thus killing his ambiguity. Something would have to be done with him, but I think death is just the easy way out.

It won't kill the crew enough if Simon or River die. So it wouldn't be them.

Could be Book. Would be better if he died before he told all. Perhaps all could be gradually found out after his death, as a direct result of some wacky fun that comes about because of Book's death.

Could be Inara. But it wouldn't have a big enough effect, I think.

No, I would kill Zoe. Definitely. She's the best candidate for maximum pain all around. Ooh, also, because her death would kill Wash, too, in a sense. He'd be a bit more subdued. Excellent stuff.

JK

CARDIE

Thursday, July 8, 2004 2:37 AM

Joss has killed off a lot of recurring characters, but his original ensembles have a pretty good survival rate, at least until the show's final seasons. Look at Buffy--the core regular cast was originally Buffy, Willow, Xander, Giles and Angel. None of them died permanently in either Buffy or Angel. Doyle dying is the really big exception. The carnage on Angel didn't otherwise kick in for those in the opening credits until the second half of the final season.

So I don't think anyone in the cast would have died any time soon.

Cardie

NOSADSEVEN

Thursday, July 8, 2004 3:20 AM

I'm not going to speculate much on who'd go first, but ever since HoG I've always envisioned the Zoe-with-child scenario RichardWorthington brought up.

My vision of it involves a seemingly pointless death, a kind of after the danger has passed some stupid thing ultimately caused by some guest character's weenieness. When it becomes apparent that Zoe is down for the count, Mal just goes to that dark place, finds aforementioned weenie guest character, and without even noticing anyone else is there, kills the sad SOB with his bare hands, then, again not noticing the rest of the crew (sans Wash who is still lost in his own grief with Zoe) witnessing this, he just kind of walks off to his bunk or something. Meanwhile, the crew is not only devastated by Zoe's demise, but equally unsettled by Mal's reaction - though no one even attempts to intervene. So, Mal's out of the picture for a while, and Simon determines either that they can deliver the baby (depending how far along Zoe was) or that she can be kept alive on life support in order to carry the baby to term.

I find the baby angle intriguing because it forces the survivors to keep it together. It contrasts the devastating loss and grief with the gift and responsibility of parenthood. It keeps Mal and Wash connected, because you know Mal would be devoted to Zoe's child. And, with Zoe being Mal's only connection to who he once was, that part of Zoe would seem to be the only thing keeping him tethered to the person he was. And of course, you have the whole magic of parenthood (via Joss's idea of "made" family) as giving Mal more to live for than just to keep flying, and at the same time, so much more to lose.

Zoe never seemed to have lost her self in the war quite the way Mal had, and it seems like in Wash she had found the joy that she had lost. Mal had never allowed himself that kind of healing, and the wounds just kind of scabbed over without healing. Zoe's death would serve as a catalyst to kind of tear open those wounds again, but in the context of their "made" family on Serenity, and the responsibility and wonder of a child, his wounds would finally have a chance to get cleaned out properly and begin to truly heal. Sure, they would still be tender, and there would always be scars, but that's a far cry from the festering we currently see.

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Ain't. We. Just.

THEZOOMZOOMKID

Thursday, July 8, 2004 5:02 AM

I think Book would have been the first to go. Mabye Joss was gonna pull a Doyle on us and kill him off very early.

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