KICK-ASS
POSTED BY: pcch7
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 04:40
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No, and Kick-Ass is rated R so the argument that it´ll ruin kids is dumb cause in that case
Exactly.
Looking at teh interwebs, there seems to be as much fuss over Hitgirl's pottymouth (particularly the C word) as the carnage. Do people think that kids don't know these words?
Apparently the actress is going to be in the US remake of child vampire flick Let the right one in. Poor girl - its going to be years before she can watch any of her own films!
Actually, I was fairly surprised that it was only cert 15 in the UK, c.f. Watchmen which was 18. So I guess a semi-realistic rape scene trumps a 12 year old calling a room full of drug dealers c
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Yanno, I don't pay attention to none of the mostly drek comin outta hollywood, so I didn't even hear about this flick till today, when someone showed me the trailer, pointed out the kid and goes "One of yours" ? with a snide look on his mug.
I think imma wee bit sympathetic to ECGordons thoughts on it, having an affiliation through some of my work in youth rights with Paul Peterson, who addresses many of those issues.
http://www.minorcon.org/index.html
Still, it's kinda hypocritical to criticize a kid for an acting role where they get to be a big screen superhero, and they *know* the violence is all fake - when we live in a society where that violence is often all too real, all around children of that age and often directed at them.
I'd think addressing the latter should take precedence, is all - and yeah, I *do* teach kids of that age self-defense, and maybe to a degree some folk find extreme, but consider what happened to most of em before that - their pysche requires knowing they're not helpless in order to ever be whole again.
Anyhows, it's just a movie, and while I might have some moral issues over it, I can't help but think how hard I woulda jumped on something like that with both feet when *I* was that age if someone had offered me a role like that!
Bet she had a ton of fun with it, too.
So forgive me for not being so terribly offended by a child actor reveling in fantasy violence as a fun adventure when I see kids up to their eyebrows unwilling in the real thing all the time.
-Frem
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I recall almost similar comments regarding 13-year-old Natalie Portman in her role in The Professional. She cursed up a storm and became a "hit girl" of sorts within the framework of the story.
I have the uncut version and there's a scene that was not in the theatrical release. I guess the censors here in the states did not feel it to be appropriate. It is a scene where she winds up in bed with Leon The Professional. No, there's no sex involved, although throughout the film she repeatedly asks him to bed her. He, quite morally, refuses stating her youth.
I'm not surprised that the censors chose to cut this scene, which was important to the overall story. But nothing happened. As a matter of fact it depicted Leon's maturity and character.
I'm not equating The Professional to Kick Ass in substance or delivery, only in terms of the youth of the female characters and the crudeness of the dialougue. There was more character development in the Professional. But, in both cases, you have "daddy" figures teaching their charges to be grown up in the big bad cruel world.
Moretz was electrifying as Hit Girl, both she and Nick Cage made this movie enjoyable for me. It was funny wihtout being too moronic and action-packed, filled with Tarantino-like fight scenes and cool music to go along with it. Cage was pitch-perfect as Big Daddy, with just the right amount of camp.
The young actor who played Kick Ass was just dorky enough to give us the average high school kid vibe wanna-be superhero. It was quirky and funny, but Moretz for me stole the show. I think, as with Portman, that she's gonna be something special within a couple of years. She's not even 13 yet. In an interview conducted at the Comic Con she was very professional in talking about her role as Hit Girl.
In a couple of weeks I will go back and see it again.
SGG
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Originally posted by fearthebunnyman:
So I just saw this, and no spoilers, but this movie really should have been HIT-GIRL.
I think that was the original idea, but she was too hard a character to empathise with. What was she thinking/ feeling when dealing with the drug dealers, for example? So Kick-ass was added as a viewpoint character.
We know what Kick-ass was thinking at that moment: "Oh dear God, what the h*ll is that... please don't kill me."
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Ya know I almost didn't see this, glad I changed my mind. What a ride! From the opening when the superhero wannabe makes a crash landing to the end when vengence is served this was a very entertaining flick.
I can understand why so many people loved the character of Hit Girl. I guess she can serve as role model. I mean if it's okay for guys to aspire to be Batman why can't girls do the same? What I don't agree with is the notion that Kick Ass the character was boring and/or unimportant. The difference between these characters fuels the endless debate of revenge vs. justice. Kick Ass dons the mask because he is outraged by society's indifference to victims. Hit Girl is fueled by the need to avenge the wrongs her parents suffered. Of course she would not have done any of this without her father leading the way.
Speaking of Big Daddy I really liked Nicholas Cage's performance. It would have been easy, especially for him, to take the character way over the top. He really hit the nail on head by playing this guy as a low key killer who also cares deeply about his daughter. I know a lot of people may disagree about that last part considering what he raised her to be but I do think it is accurate. One more thing, Cage was particularly hilarious when voicing his character in costume. I have to believe this is a shot at the way Christian Bale hams it up when dressed as Batman.
Based on the way the film ended I have to think the door is open for a sequel. Here's hoping. It would be fascinating to see how the passage of time would effect the characters and their motivations.
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Originally posted by BigRichard:
I have had that about Legion. Will probably give it a miss until it comes out on DVD, or I get a voucher or something. It's a shame because I love Paul Bettany usually, and a film about angels etc, should be excellent, but it sounds like it just all falls apart.
Harry Brown I'm excited about, love Michael Caine, and I've heard good things.
To take the thread back on topic, I saw Kick Ass AGAIN today. And I loved it again. I went with another friend who I saw it with last time, and a friend we took to see it for the first time. We all loved it. First time, second time, we all had a great time.
Upon seeing the credits roll this time, I decided. This is a release day BluRay buy for me. Love it.
I liked Legion betterm than I thought I would. But then I'm a fan of Dark Angel, and seeing Joshua again was nice. Not a big Bettany fan, but he pulled it off I thought, One of his better performances. I think a lot of the visuals will be lost on a smaller screen.
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Originally posted by pcch7:
well, would you wanna mess with them [River + Hit-girl]?
No, but I doubt that they would get on. Bluntly, our BDHs are criminals. The last time we saw them on their day job, they were robbing a bank.
The last time we saw Mindy, she was hospitalising two kids for trying to steal her lunch money. What do you think she would do to a bunch of bank robbers?
So if she ever encountered the crew of Serenity, it would probably be bloodshed at first sight...
(FWIW - I think Mindy wins if she has access to firearms. Otherwise, I'm betting on River on grounds of her greater reach and, presumably, strength.)
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Originally posted by pcch7:
well, would you wanna mess with them [River + Hit-girl]?
No, but I doubt that they would get on. Bluntly, our BDHs are criminals. The last time we saw them on their day job, they were robbing a bank.
The last time we saw Mindy, she was hospitalising two kids for trying to steal her lunch money. What do you think she would do to a bunch of bank robbers?
So if she ever encountered the crew of Serenity, it would probably be bloodshed at first sight...
(FWIW - I think Mindy wins if she has access to firearms. Otherwise, I'm betting on River on grounds of her greater reach and, presumably, strength.)
yes, but that´s why I said what a great team up they would be. It´s not like Mindy and BD are exatcly obeying the law either. They´d kick the living shit out of anyone.
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Absolutely fuckin' awesome!
I'm gonna go see it again.
Day late an'a dollar short...Story of my ruttin' life!
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