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if the show didnt get cancelled, who do you think wouldve been the first to die?

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 2:19 AM

Noooooooooooooooooo

no one dies

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 2:25 AM

Zoe, I could see her coming between a bullet meant for anyone else, especially the captain. Besides the only real relationship on the show is Zoe and Wash and that certainly can't last too long, it's a Whedon show. And just think of the tension between Mal and Wash if Zoe died on Mal's mission protecting Mal.

-Professor's fiance

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 2:40 AM

I think River would be the first to go. That would allow a lot of interesting storyline with what would happen with Simon after losing the sister that he gave up everything to save. I'd like to see a dark, brooding simon would be very interesting to see.

Actually just about any character dying would make for some very interesting character interactions. Except maybe jayne. Probably only the viewers would care if he died.

"You gone got yourself lookin' mighty hideous" ~Jayne

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RUE
Wednesday, July 7, 2004 3:07 AM

Every new post had me convinced, until I read the next one.

It could be the 'least important' character - the one with only a first name who's supposed to die, as explained in Galaxy Quest. I think that makes Book the first.

On the other hand, in FF some situations do seem dead-end, thematically. They have to go one way or the other, b/c it just isn't believable they'd go on and on, and on ... and on, on the razor's edge, forever ....

... or, a character dies.

So unless there's a way to resolve Mal and Inara, Jayne and Mal, Kaylee and Simon ...

I guess I'd have to say Inara. But that could merely be a function of my inability to come up with a satisfactory evolution of that story. And that's why I'm not a writer. That, and well, it's painful and it take a lot of creativity and so on.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 3:43 AM

I would also have to say Inara, but with Joss you never know...

Shamrock

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 3:58 AM

I would like to think that Mr. Joss had planned to keep the whole cast around for quite a while, if not forever, but he also had probably made contingency plans just in case.... I'm just jaded enough about television production to understand that sometimes contracting issues, actor's sensibilities, or audience dissapproval can force cast changes, and death of the character is one very effective way to cover for the absence of an actor.

Still, if Joss had had his way, I think Zoe would have been the first to go, but I don't know why...

Geez! This is a morbid thread!

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 6:01 AM

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Originally posted by Gwally:
Still, if Joss had had his way, I think Zoe would have been the first to go, but I don't know why...


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Purplebelly's Denouement


I agree Zoe's death is the one that is essential for series development; she is the Ma Joad foundation of the Firefly family.
After her death, Mal and Wash surrender to opium and alcohol. Kaylee and Serenity are grounded though continuing to care for the former captain and pilot.
The fates of Book and Inara are not pivotal; they can die or return to their former careers after completion of their roles in the demise of Blue Sun.
River needs to be alive to enter the witness programme against Blue Sun, so a subsequent death would be quixotic; you could argue that the re-programming she undergoes is a form of death as it leaves her a happy cabbage.
Simon, as Whedon's alter-ego, survives to return to his career and to oversee the care of his invalid sister. Jayne is the one character who can live happily-ever-after as the majordomo of Simon's loft apartment which he has tastefully decorated in the fashionable Serenity mode; it is his threat to kill Mal that keeps Kaylee from appealing to Simon for help.

Serenity is recrewed in the following season. With a new cast each season, Whedon has found a way to free himself from the prima donna; for a writer, that's a real happy ending

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 7:26 AM

Definitely River. She was just there as a plot device to add the X-Files element to the show, so once they followed that plot to its logical conclusion she would become far too powerful to remain on the ship. Joss has always said that Firefly was supposed to be about the little people that history forgets about, and that doesn't describe what River would have become when she got her act together.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 7:36 AM

Joss would do the entirely unexpected and kill Mal.

I don't care, I'm still free.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 8:22 AM

That is the benefit of not having a title character :)

I agree, were anyone to die, it wouldn't have been for a while.

Oh, and he did kill Mal. Go technicalities :)

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