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POSTED BY: pcch7
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 04:40
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Friday, April 16, 2010 4:47 PM

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Originally posted by Cavalier:
A team up between an accomplice of a minor criminal, and a merciless vigilante?



well, would you wanna mess with them?

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:30 AM

Roger Ebert called it "morally reprehensible," and while I think that may be overstating it, since it is just a movie, he's not far wrong. As reprehensible as it is for the character of Damon Macready/"Big Daddy" (Nicolas Cage) to train his daughter in weaponry and martial arts to the point she becomes "Hit Girl" and helps him exact revenge against the mobster who helped frame him and send him to prison, I think it is almost as reprehensible that the parents of the twelve year old actress (Chloe Moretz) would allow her to appear in such a gruesome and graphically violent film, including her uttering just about every obscenity you would expect to hear in a Scorcese or Tarantino film.

I know those in the target audience will call me and Ebert old-fashioned and out of touch, but so be it. I don't have anything against violence or obscenity in films as long as it serves the story, but not when it is the entire story.


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Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:10 AM

So I just saw this, and no spoilers, but this movie really should have been HIT-GIRL. How freaking awesome was she? and she had a way better superhero story. I found myself sitting through Kick-Ass's little dramas getting annoyed waiting to get back to Hit-Girl and her dad. Also, what was up with all the gay-bashing? Other than that, it was a fun flick - I'll give it a B.

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Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:51 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Roger Ebert called it "morally reprehensible," and while I think that may be overstating it, since it is just a movie, he's not far wrong. As reprehensible as it is for the character of Damon Macready/"Big Daddy" (Nicolas Cage) to train his daughter in weaponry and martial arts to the point she becomes "Hit Girl" and helps him exact revenge against the mobster who helped frame him and send him to prison, I think it is almost as reprehensible that the parents of the twelve year old actress (Chloe Moretz) would allow her to appear in such a gruesome and graphically violent film, including her uttering just about every obscenity you would expect to hear in a Scorcese or Tarantino film.

I know those in the target audience will call me and Ebert old-fashioned and out of touch, but so be it. I don't have anything against violence or obscenity in films as long as it serves the story, but not when it is the entire story.





Ebert is hardly a perfect critic.. The man gave "Knowing" a 4 / 4 for gods sake. In response to his review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44670

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:54 AM

jaffas...no Maltesers....no jaffas... fooey both. what are goobers?

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Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:43 PM

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Originally posted by pcch7:
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Roger Ebert called it "morally reprehensible," and while I think that may be overstating it, since it is just a movie, he's not far wrong. As reprehensible as it is for the character of Damon Macready/"Big Daddy" (Nicolas Cage) to train his daughter in weaponry and martial arts to the point she becomes "Hit Girl" and helps him exact revenge against the mobster who helped frame him and send him to prison, I think it is almost as reprehensible that the parents of the twelve year old actress (Chloe Moretz) would allow her to appear in such a gruesome and graphically violent film, including her uttering just about every obscenity you would expect to hear in a Scorcese or Tarantino film.

I know those in the target audience will call me and Ebert old-fashioned and out of touch, but so be it. I don't have anything against violence or obscenity in films as long as it serves the story, but not when it is the entire story.





Ebert is hardly a perfect critic.. The man gave "Knowing" a 4 / 4 for gods sake. In response to his review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44670

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."


I doubt I would agree with Ebert on most things, had stopped watching his show long before Siskel died. It's just in this case I agree with his assessment. I'm obviously not in the target demo for this film although I could have been if their intent hadn't been to depict the most graphic and goriest ways to off the bad guys or to show protagonists that are every bit as psychotic and morally bankrupt as the villains.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.


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Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:31 PM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:

I could have been if their intent hadn't been to depict the most graphic and goriest ways to off the bad guys or to show protagonists that are every bit as psychotic and morally bankrupt as the villains.




Except that's the point of the film. My only criticism is that the same point has been made in lots of other films and comic books. However, Kick Ass does it as a black comedy rather than the rather po-faced take in Watchmen and the Batman/Dark Knight stories.

You seem to think that you are obliged to support the protagonists or condone their actions in order to enjoy the movie. The idea of a vicious, foul-mouthed assassin who's also a sweet little child is meant to be disturbing. Disturbing can be funny, and funny can still have a point

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Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:55 PM

Just read the last line of my previous post again. I won't say anything else about this movie.


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Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:14 PM

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Originally posted by pcch7:
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Roger Ebert called it "morally reprehensible," and while I think that may be overstating it, since it is just a movie, he's not far wrong. As reprehensible as it is for the character of Damon Macready/"Big Daddy" (Nicolas Cage) to train his daughter in weaponry and martial arts to the point she becomes "Hit Girl" and helps him exact revenge against the mobster who helped frame him and send him to prison, I think it is almost as reprehensible that the parents of the twelve year old actress (Chloe Moretz) would allow her to appear in such a gruesome and graphically violent film, including her uttering just about every obscenity you would expect to hear in a Scorcese or Tarantino film.

I know those in the target audience will call me and Ebert old-fashioned and out of touch, but so be it. I don't have anything against violence or obscenity in films as long as it serves the story, but not when it is the entire story.





Ebert is hardly a perfect critic.. The man gave "Knowing" a 4 / 4 for gods sake. In response to his review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44670

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."


I doubt I would agree with Ebert on most things, had stopped watching his show long before Siskel died. It's just in this case I agree with his assessment. I'm obviously not in the target demo for this film although I could have been if their intent hadn't been to depict the most graphic and goriest ways to off the bad guys or to show protagonists that are every bit as psychotic and morally bankrupt as the villains.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.





I agree with IMNOTHERE.. And can´t we have one comic-book movie like this? Must they all be the same pg 13 shit? No, and Kick-Ass is rated R so the argument that it´ll ruin kids is dumb cause in that case, blame the people who let them in to the theatre. they shouldn´t even be able to watch it. As for the gore, there´s plenty of worse movies out there in terms of gore, only it´s not an 11 year old girl dishing it out. I´m sure if it had been a "Hit-Boy", people wouldn´t make any fuss about it at all.

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:03 PM

My own thoughts:

One of the major characters is an eleven-year old girl, who's father has gone slightly mad and decided to train into an unstoppable killing machine, called Mindy.

If you smiled when reading that last sentence, you will love this film. Otherwise, you won't.


But I don't understand how the film can be immoral as such: it's all pretend. Do people think that it will encourage 11-year old girls to gun down any drug dealers they encounter?

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