Niki2 and Storymark Want to ban GinoBiffaroni
POSTED BY: GinoBiffaroni
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010 17:53
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Fuck this
Bye All
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*side-steps the flames*
*throws a Simon stun grenade into the thread before entering*
CALM DOWN PEOPLE!!!
Gino, I'm NOT going to gang up on you like some people. As I have been at this site for a while (years), lurking, reading a lot, including your stuff. You try to neutral and unbiased (kinda like Fremd), and try to find the good and bad in all sides.
Since Niki and Story overreacted, I'm going to argue (only a little, if you can call it arguing. Did I mention I don't post in RWED much?) against the bombing theory on strategy.
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GinoBiffaroni wrote:
I have stated repeatedly that I feel your country will continue on its course, doing the things I find objectionable if it doesn't get attacked...
Yeah, THAT'LL fix everything. If you'll recall the USA getting attacked (from foreign or domestic, whichever the viewer believes) is what started all this crap course [is pointing at all the post 9/11 "Wars", PARROT ACT, etc.] in the first place.
Who's to say it wouldn't just get worse.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I like all you guys.
The laughing Chrisisall
And some actually like you back.
I'm guessin'.
Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
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i mean, i like chrisisall, but i don't like-like chrisisall.
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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
i mean, i like chrisisall, but i don't like-like chrisisall.
Liar.
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Quote:Gino, we're stronger with you than without you!
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Bye All
The Kirkisall
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Hookay, just gotta put my two cents' worth in here. Overreacted, eh Rahl? Please read the following:
I've never "attacked" Gino nor called him names, and definitely never asked him to leave. I've been upset about his consistent call for violence against the US, and yes, he said quite plainly that
WE (meaning you and I) are responsible for the actions of our government and our country
WE should do something about it, and if not, then
WE (America) should be attacked.
He has writen extensively on several scenarios of the above he would like to see. Some of the quotes above are a few of the things he said...there are MANY more. A couple of others and I tried to reason with him in a long thread, only to have him slap back repeatedly that we are responsible and in different ways say he wanted America taken down, then delete all the text in all his posts and disappear. Now he's back. I see he deleted material again above and said goodbye. I don't want him to leave any more than anyone else, and we haven't "ganged up" on him...he put up this thread. I'm sorry he's got a problem with me and with others here; it's not my place to bow down to his threats.
End of story.
As for me going after Gino, that's a laugh. Last remarks to me were
”Piss off Niki
last fucking warning
you go your goddamn way and I'll go mine,
or things will get ugly”
and before that “Listen you blue haired bitch”. I’ve never threatened Gino nor called him names that I recall, and he’s been consistently ugly as hell to me. More than once he’s claimed I’m a terrorist apologist in essence merely because, although I agree with him about EVERYTHING else, I disagree that violence is the answer, nor his threatening violence against America and Americans. That is literally the ONLY thing I disagreed with him about. He told several of us he didn’t want to talk to us anymore, and has promised to dog my posts, my EVERY post, with ugliness, which he proceeded to do.
Please don’t make assumptions about me; I reply to everyone’s post as best I can. I refuse to be told who I can and cannot respond to, which is where he started this vendetta. He said he wanted a "restraining order" against me, and followed it with the above.
Gino has said numerous times that America deserves violence against it, and suggested numerous ways he would like to see it. Violence against a country of the type he put forth IS genocide; whatever he says now, that's just the way it is.
If he hasn't deleted them, you can see the chronology and who said what in the thread...something about "Obama adored by his academic friends" or something.
Yes, I'm angry now; I wasn't before, I think there's something wrong with Gino and he's blinded by his hate, but when he starts playing the victim, after HE threatened ME, okay, I'm pissed off.
End of story. I'm going to go eat dinner, hopefully this will have calmed down by tomorrow.
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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From the Iraq video thread:
Quote:OK first - he did advocate an attack on America. It's not an accusation. It's something he SAID.
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
What I'm saying is that if he is not behaving rationally, you need to let it go or end up becoming part of the chaos. I'm saying that you've accused him of advocating genocide and I don't think that is remotely fair, given who he is and where he's been.
Second: I have no idea who he is and where he's been. RWED is full of people not behaving rationally. I have more than once been one of them. I have never known there to be a rule against it, or a rule against calling folks out over it. If there is some history of Gino that means hands-off, hey, it wasn't posted. But I'm not a monster, a simple non-specific PM'd request could have worked wonders.
I may be a self-righteous know-it-all prick, but I do not have ESP.
Quote:Again, I don't know his personal history. But I try not to make it my first reaction to blindly accept someone being a jerk to me just because, well, they must have a really good reason. And I don't much like other people telling me that I should.
You are sounding, to my ear, uncharacteristically self-righteous. Of course, I'm not saying that "whatever he does is okay." Jeez. I'm saying, merely, that I can understand why he might not apologize for his behavior.
Quote:Have you really been following this exchange, or just reading a few of Gino's posts and assuming the rest? Cause I've answered this already. Just tonight I said, when quoting his deleted posts, that I did not think this thing he was talking about was genocide. Also, I told Niki that I am not convinced that he really believes this.
mal4pres, please answer this question: do you truly believe that ginobifferoni advocates genocide against Americans? Do you honestly believe that he wants our cities bombed? Don't tell me what he said, we both know what he said. I'm asking you, do you believe that what he said reflects his truest feelings on the matter?
I certainly did not think he believed it to start. In fact, I got into all this trying to show Niki that the Yay for killing Americans! thing wasn't really what he meant. What I thought he meant was something else that I completely agreed with, and I told him so. He was immediately argumentative. At every step of the way it's been as if he's trying to convince me that this "kill America" thing is indeed his truest feelings. And he's gotten downright nasty about it.
When I feel like someone's giving me shit and might at any minute starting threatening and stalking me, even over the anonymous and supposedly safe internet, I am sure as shit going to cess the situation and act to defend myself. Now, until you know the particulars of my personal history as well as you know Gino's, I'd prefer you not ride my ass. Deal?
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Oh man, all this deal making, I don't get it. I'm sorry, M4P. I decided to talk to you because I perceived you to be the most reasonable player in this peculiar game of four-square. Gino has been a very reasonable person in the past, but something has obviously set him off. Seems pointless to treat what, on the face of it, is an obvious lapse as the new Gino.
Back in the months after 9/11 one of my dearest friends wrote on his blog that the United States should bomb Mecca and Medina. I was shocked. I had one phone conversation with him about it, it went terribly, and then I let him go for a while.
I wish folk on the internet would do that more often. I wish Gino coulda brought himself to ignore Nikki, even when she wrote "Canadian: hates Americans." I wish Nikki coulda given it a rest instead of reading him the riot act. I really wish Story hadn't resorted to WWF trash talking--"grow a pair"--sheesh.
I'm sorry for picking on you. It was not my intent. You were just what amounted to the designated driver at the party, so I talked to you hoping to get the clearest reception, y'know?
When people cry "bully" I tend to take them seriously, at least on a subjective level. It's like crying for me, if someone starts crying, I generally stop everything and see what I can do. Sometimes, it ain't much.
I hope you will consider any ass-riding from me in these last couple posts as a lapse in otherwise sterling judgment on my part. 
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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