'Firefly' TV movies?
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I guess we're also talking the degree or meaning of retcon.
I consider a retcon to be a full on change - Suddenly saying there were (for instance) two years between Firefly and Serenity instead of the two months mentioned in the film would be a retcon to me. There are several examples in the Star Wars prequels as well.
The example with Tyrol's daughter on BSG as cited above, I don't consider to be a retcon - as it's just new info that changes how we view what came before. The reasons behind such a plot development might be the same as a full retcon (whoops - we messed up), but it still fits within the framework of what's been established.
Bringing back Dobson (as the comic did) I wouldn't call a retcon - we just didn't see the means by which he survived, and as improbable as it may have been, it is possible to survive such a wound.
Now, had he brought back Crowe.... that would be a pretty big one.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Theoretically Dobson shouldn't have survived a pointblank shot to the eye from a gun that also clearly could put down a horse. It would penetrate to the brain. Maybe that's why he became so revenge obsessed... Brain damage to the frontal lobe (anger moderation and etc). Still, he shouldn't have survived. He did, because of rule of funny.
On the other hand, sci-fi.
Have you ever gotten the feeling that some of the ideas Joss had for Dollhouse, he was planning to use for the Alliance/ Blue Sun experiments? I do.
Wash might be hard to resurrect, especially because it seems clear to me that Wash dying would have been concentrated character development for Zoe in any sequels. But Book telling Mal to believe, that might not necessarily preclude Book coming back in some form later on. Hell, it'd seem like a miracle, which plays right into the storyline, and look at all the possibilities. Law enforcement, at one time important to the Alliance?
I've often thought, it'd be interesting if Operatives came in model numbers, and each new Operative is a clone of his predecessor. Of course, you can't grow memories with cloning, not unless memories can be entirely described by the minute neural connections between axons and the Alliance had the technology to both create brain scans down to that level of detail, then are able to GROW neurons to that exact specification. Or there could be Dollhouse style memory storage. But even if you had none of those, with a "clone" you could still have a storyline about repeating history and such.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Have you ever gotten the feeling that some of the ideas Joss had for Dollhouse, he was planning to use for the Alliance/ Blue Sun experiments? I do.
Yes, yes and hell yes! I never actually thought about it but now that you've pointed it out I think I just got to liking dollhouse a little more.
I kinda figured that Wash and Book would find there way back in to the show as figments of river's imagination alla Six in Gaius Baltar's head. Or maybe, if we ever got more filmed firefly, they just wouldn't come back. I'd trust Joss to make whatever he tried work.
I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.
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If you think about it, River is essentially Echo, only she doesn't need a chair, can distance steal memories/skills, and is generally more powerful.
Simon is a less cynical and not-romantic interest Ballard character.
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Originally posted by beatupplenty:
Regarding the suggestion that Sy-Fy bring back Firefly. I would have to see a more out of that network before I would trust them with Firefly. Have we all forgotten all those fantastic Saturday night movies that were better than average for the first 2/3 to 3/4 only to crap out completely at the end? My husband and I used to watch them when nothing else was on and place bets on how long the movie would run before the story took a complete dump. I hate to be so blunt--but that channel has a lot to prove before its worthy of picking up where the Serenity film left off.
All too true...
In their favor , they DID do a fair job with the Galactica franchise re-boot...
If the network would commit $ 50 million I could see that they were serious...
Being that 'SyFy' is an NBC/Universal property , it could even give them a two-fer...First run in primetime on NBC , then the re-run on a weekend night on SyFy...
They are not that smart , though...Remember the debacle with Conan and the sinking of the Leno Tonight show franchise ? With 'management' like that , no wonder that parent company GE is thinking of ditching their networks...
Last thing I wanna see is Firefly dying an undignified crash/burn death on a cheap-ass network...
Be much better to see a 14-hour miniseries on HBO or Showtime , every year...
Still flying...That's enough...
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In these financially troubled times... seems like perfect times for a Firefly reboot. Who wouldn't relate to a *family* trying to scratch out a living any way they can? And they can have a little fun thinking of themselves as outlaws at the same time.
I would think Skiffy would be hungry for a new universe to explore - the Firefly 'Verse is perfect, even if they go with different characters, and as mentioned, they kind of own the rights to it already.
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Originally posted by beatupplenty:
Regarding the suggestion that Sy-Fy bring back Firefly. I would have to see a more out of that network before I would trust them with Firefly. Have we all forgotten all those fantastic Saturday night movies that were better than average for the first 2/3 to 3/4 only to crap out completely at the end? My husband and I used to watch them when nothing else was on and place bets on how long the movie would run before the story took a complete dump. I hate to be so blunt--but that channel has a lot to prove before its worthy of picking up where the Serenity film left off.
They make those Saturady movies intentionally bad. Do you really think they're shooting for quality with Mansquito??
Their series have faired pretty well, though. Some bad, some great, some in between. Just like every other channel.
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
In these financially troubled times... seems like perfect times for a Firefly reboot. Who wouldn't relate to a *family* trying to scratch out a living any way they can? And they can have a little fun thinking of themselves as outlaws at the same time.
I would think Skiffy would be hungry for a new universe to explore - the Firefly 'Verse is perfect, even if they go with different characters, and as mentioned, they kind of own the rights to it already.
You are right...Firefly is more relevant than ever...Subversive , though .
Can't have the commoners running around with guns , and in their very own spaceship(s) too , now can we ?
'Skiffy' isn't even skiffy , anymore...If they cannot be true to themselves , can we trust them with our beloved ?
Whut wuzz up with wrasslin' on Sci-Fi , anyway ?
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The problem with ScyFy is they don't want to greenlight new shows that they don't own. If they did a Firefly/Serenity revival, they have to split any profits with Fox and/or Universal. Thus, a new series without shared ownership is more appealing financially.
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