Just wondering, what other site is so self-regulating as FFF?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, March 29, 2010 05:09
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I think the main problem with most boards is that the admins and moderators tend to favor one type of poster or one point of view over another. Haken pretty much leaves it up to us to do what we want, and most of us don't abuse the privilege.
I used to belong to a True Blood board that was taken over by Eric fans. They will not hear one word of criticism of the character and tend to bend some of the scenes in the books and TV episodes to conform to their point of view.
They have even attacked other points of view and the mods didn't do anything.
I was on the board less than a week before I stopped visiting it, but it still continues. I also found a friendlier board and I'm very happy chatting about True Blood there.
Haken has made this place an oasis and treats us like the adults that we are. I love him for that.
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I frequent a couple Stargate sites (which have become quite quiet ever since Atlantis was cancelled) and like the message above, it was quite common for those of dissenting views to get "dog piled" on by those long-time members. The problem with them is that they all came to some consensus as to what canon is/was without making those points of view in a "stickied" thread. So when new folks came along and asked a question, they would be inundated with replies like "Don't ask" or "do a search, you N00B!"
Of course searches would bring up locked or archived threads so the new folks couldn't post their views, so when they created new threads continuing the conversations, they would get locked or banned. Needless to say, this would happen because those long-time members are now moderators, so they have the power.
But that's what I love about FFF.net. Most everyone here knows there will be differing views, and usually have something constructive to say, rather than beating down the poster. 
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Some boards are just like high school, with cliques and "secret threads" for mods to literally make fun of "mere posters".
Some boards literally have cops taking control of them, banning members who disagree with cops, but never ban cops for disagreeing.
The cops even make arrests to "help" certain moderators at their place of business, though I suspect that may have been extortion by cop using police informants to stage fake crimes for protection rackets, since the cop was always in the right place at the right time in the middle of the night on a loney road. The sucking up to cops on those forums is quite disgusting.
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It's worth pointing out that huge numbers of potential Firefly fans have been driven away from the board by the large numbers of vitriolic, racist and downright hostile threads. You know, regular people who wanted to share their love of a TV show but wondered why people were allowed to post threads calling Jewel a whore.
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I've actually driven away members because of my terribly bigoted dislike of vampires... Didn't mean to. I thought it was one of those vampire/werewolf arguments, and they were talking about Twilight, a decidedly pro-vampire series if I've ever heard of one... ._. I stopped posting on vampire threads after that...
The environment can be hostile, and I suppose there's no justification for that. People are forced to swim or leave.
On the other hand, strong opinions are going to happen. As it turns out, to some people my opinion about vampires ("stake 'em all" was the phrase I used) is as nasty as someone else's actual racism/sexism/creedism/homophobia. There's simply no possible way to filter out all content that any random person might find offensive.
Ultimately, this site offers an unusual policy on free speech, one which strongly attracts anyone who remains... Who isn't torn to shreds first.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
On the other hand, strong opinions are going to happen. As it turns out, to some people my opinion about vampires ("stake 'em all" was the phrase I used) is as nasty as someone else's actual racism/sexism/creedism/homophobia. There's simply no possible way to filter out all content that any random person might find offensive.
Ultimately, this site offers an unusual policy on free speech, one which strongly attracts anyone who remains... Who isn't torn to shreds first.
^QFT.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I've actually driven away members because of my terribly bigoted dislike of vampires... Didn't mean to. I thought it was one of those vampire/werewolf arguments, and they were talking about Twilight, a decidedly pro-vampire series if I've ever heard of one... ._. I stopped posting on vampire threads after that...
The environment can be hostile, and I suppose there's no justification for that. People are forced to swim or leave.
Indeed. The vast majority have chosen to leave. I know people will blame it on the show finishing or the movie flopping but I'm a Doctor Who fan - I've been on fan sites for a show that appeared precisely once in 16 years, sites that were active, vibrant, friendly, informative and more. FFF has effectively turned into a ghost town, with a few madmen posting endless diatribes on the same lunatic topics and a few dozen more who remember what the place used to be and used to be about.
Basically, tell people that they can yell fire in a crowded theatre but you trust them not to, you're always going to attract those who will not only yell it but compete to see who can yell the loudest.
Just my take on it.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I've actually driven away members because of my terribly bigoted dislike of vampires... Didn't mean to. I thought it was one of those vampire/werewolf arguments, and they were talking about Twilight, a decidedly pro-vampire series if I've ever heard of one... ._. I stopped posting on vampire threads after that...
The environment can be hostile, and I suppose there's no justification for that. People are forced to swim or leave.
On the other hand, strong opinions are going to happen. As it turns out, to some people my opinion about vampires ("stake 'em all" was the phrase I used) is as nasty as someone else's actual racism/sexism/creedism/homophobia. There's simply no possible way to filter out all content that any random person might find offensive.
Ultimately, this site offers an unusual policy on free speech, one which strongly attracts anyone who remains... Who isn't torn to shreds first.
Twilight lol
thats not a vampire... thats a Jonas Brother
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Craig RULES!!!!
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by SimonWho:
FFF has effectively turned into a ghost town, with a few madmen posting endless diatribes on the same lunatic topics and a few dozen more who remember what the place used to be and used to be about.
Realistically, this site can never be what it once was. Joss, the writers, the producers, the actors, and a good majority of the fans have moved on.
It has been 7 years since Firefly aired its 13 episodes--not exactly a wealth of content to merit a host of websites and a continued large following, but we're still here--ghost town and all.
Actually, along the spirit of Firefly, I prefer to think of this place as more a saloon in some backward town out in the boonies. Where the locals and a few unsavory visiting characters just hang out after a long hard day, have copious amounts of beer, and shoot the breeze--maybe even have a brawl or two over some stupid disagreement.
This place with all its flaws is comforting. It is the one constant in my life where I can find a bit of solace. FFF.NET is my 'Man Cave.' It is always there for me when I need it. I would like to think that it is there for others too when they need it.
So that's my take.
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