Other Science Fiction Series

List of Animated stuff for Chris and others.

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:02 AM

Planetes sounds like fun, another one added to the list.

Has anyone taken a peek at Evangelion. My son gave me the heads up about this anime series. I watched a handful of episodes and I liked it, I need to sit down and catch the rest of it.


SGG

Tawabawho?

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:02 AM

Hoo boy, this is gonna be a long post.

Firstoff, I absolutely mean to get the full collection of Avatar:Last airbender soon as I can get a decent price on it, good stuff all around, and Toph Bei Fong is sooo MUCH like my niece it ain't even funny.

Second, yeah, Last Exile is good stuff...

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I happen to be quite fond of Dio, despite him technically being a badguy/enemy defector, he's a total sweetheart - and I especially found it touching that LE handles gender preferences with a "so what" kind of attitude, given that there's a couple openly gay characters.

Oh, and FYI, Lucciola means "Firefly" in Italian.



As to Marvel, oh boy - this is gonna get heavily political in places, and I really, seriously don't like to discuss such things outside of RWED and inflict it on the unwilling, but since it's essential to the topic I will spoiler-tag those bits as a compromise. (managed to dodge around that bullet and still address most of it, yay me!)

So.. Well, the story-writing of comics has been for nearly the last twenty years, absolutely horrible, inexcusably so if you were to ask me - cheap soap opera drag-it-out tricks just to sell tripe, almost ash-can editions, really.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcan_copy

And while always heavily loaded with propaganda, some of the most notorious examples available for view at superdickery.com -

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the recent addition of jack bauer-ish tyranny justifying bullshit has driven the quality beyond even bile fascination into just plain nauseating piles of go-se.



And if that wasn't enough, further contrived storylining to sell multiple "special editions" as a direct screw-over to comic collectors, a trade which has gotten so dirty and ugly I'll just not bother discussin it here.

As for the Xmen movies... oh, where to even START...

Well, first there's the whole way they screwed up the concept that the scary thing about Xavier and Magneto is that they were so very much alike, they rather totally derail this in anvilicious fashion, Magneto would NEVER hang his own out to dry "pawns go first" - "you're not one of us anymore" as it was that very kind of behavior which set him *against* the normals in the first place, it's so against his very nature I kinda recoiled in shock, honestly.

Then there's Xaviers pompous little my way or the highway attitude, which is present, but in much, much subtler form in the comics, Magneto was more along the lines of you're here because you want to be, need to be, if you don't like it, or can't cut it, get the hell out, just don't get in my way or I will mash you flat - an attitude I can understand, yanno ?

Xavier on the other hand would actively go after anyone who brushed him off or refused to be part of his agenda, nagging and wheedling at first, but with violence in the offering eventually, which is why him and Magneto have so bloody much repressed hatred for each other.

What set me against the first movie was how none of em even questioned it, didn't think it through, explore the concept, just mindlessly accepted it, all but one - and when that one did, he joined the other side!
Not that Pyro didn't have his own issues, but still, what's it say when the only one who thinks it through instead of meekly accepting it immediately jumps ship ?

Wolverine though, is a much different story, he owes Charles, and he really *wants* to believe in Xaviers dream, but Xaviers naivety keeps smacking him in the back of the head at really inopportune moments, which in combination with his rivaly/jealousy problems with Cyclops, frustrates the everliving crap out of him and thus he's always lookin for an excuse to clobber the shit out of someone - he's the very best at what he does, but what he does, it ain't very nice...
And believe me, I know EXACTLY how he feels, being frustrated by what shoulda been, and ain't, and being very good at shit a decent world would have no use for.
Hugh Jackman comes off a little wooden to anyone familiar with just how much frustrated rage Wolvie is suckin up mos

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:09 AM

Neon Genesis Evangelion ?

I didn't much like it, a little too mindbending, especially towards the end, and I really couldn't do anything BUT hate on wussy boy, which is perhaps an unfair criticism, but it's like Cloverfield, when you're ROOTING FOR THE BAD GUYS within the first hour or so, well, why are you watching this again ?

Most folks take it as a classic, but I got enough dealing with some really broken people in real life that seeing wussy boy, miss identity issues and sadomasochism girl fail to cope just makes me wanna choke something, yanno ?

Of course, if NGE isn't mindbending ENOUGH for ya, try watching FLCL - or worse, try watching FLCL *sober* cause that whole series is kind of based on the premise of WTF ?!!

Like, Tank Girl on LSD kinda WTF, at that.

And I reaaaalllly need sleep now.

-F

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
What about Superman: Doomsday? I LOVE that flick! Have you seen it Frem?


The laughing Chrisisall



Frem is a Japanophile. You would be lucky to find anything on his pull list that doesn't have those pre pubescence animated girls with big blinking Pokemon eyes

That's what people like FremFirma do. They only recommend purely Japanese stuff approved by Japan Inc

I like the odd J-animation like Akira or G.I.T.S but I'm not obsessive about the genre. The fanboyish attitude and Japanophilla following Japan's animation industry is what turns many people off the genre.

You pick up a movie like animated Wonder Woman or the animated A-Bugs-Life, Monsters vs Aliens then you experience entertainment and what you see is what you get
you don't need to educate yourself with a trilogy, quintology, or septology of japan movies to get the message and as bad as Disney etc can be when you sit down in the theatre to watch one of their movies at least the movie is family friendly and you don't have to worry about the kids being inflicted with subliminal tentacle pornography messages.



don't buy the stereotype

there's more to it than just land of the rising pervert









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Sunday, March 21, 2010 1:17 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Neon Genesis Evangelion ?

I didn't much like it, a little too mindbending, especially towards the end, and I really couldn't do anything BUT hate on wussy boy, which is perhaps an unfair criticism, but it's like Cloverfield, when you're ROOTING FOR THE BAD GUYS within the first hour or so, well, why are you watching this again ?



Yeah, Hideako Anno was. . . troubled when he made Evangelion. It's artistically brilliant, IMHO, but not really all that healthy.

The (seemingly doomed to incompletion) manga is better, and the (still in progress) Evangelion: Rebuild (the original series re-animated as a movie trilogy, with a "sequel" slated as the fourth movie) seems to be even better. The first two Rebuild movies are out on DVD, but I'm personally waiting for the inevitable boxed set (got a chance to see the first one in theatre, and greatly enjoyed it).

There's also Angelic Days, a non-canon/alternate-timeline manga that's downright cool. Basically the Evangelion version of the Mirror Universe --where Shinji is well-adjusted, Asuka is emotionally stable (yet still. . . feisty), Rei develops a healthy personality, and Gendo isn't a complete monster.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:41 PM

Yanno, cause folk cannot keep their personal vendetta nastiness over in RWED where it belongs, imma make good on a bit of that threat.



Now, lemme explain that one...

Firstoff, I dislike that whole end of anime, it's not even anime, but more properly referred to as hentai, basically animated porn, and since I have no taste for actual porn, what the hell interest would I have in that garbage ?
Hell, Elfen Lied tripped some of my more prudish bent and that's the primary reason I didn't reccommend it, despite it being a story about the way people (human, diclonus, whatever) turn out in direct relation to how they are treated, a philosophy quite near and dear to me - the only diclonii even *close* to normal in that was Nana, because she was treated with the tiniest bit of (albiet AT THE TIME false, it wasn't later on) kindness.

Anyhows, yon sock puppets fascination there says more about them than it'd ever have any impact on me beyond pissin me off.

And, lemme point out to you that I used to go to the conventions, which have ever sucked ever worse over the past decade or so (I quit goin) mostly cause my friends went, and since the hotels in question will apply a fine to your room bill if your brats are left unattended by anyone sober enough to watch them, guess who wound up with ALL the little mungers trailing behind him like a demented pied piper since they had orders to go find me once mommy and/or daddy had drunk themselves stupid - not to mention my notorious everfull pockets of candy, something that's been a fact since I was their age, really.

And it started with being tasked to vet a game for someones kid, the parents couldn't be bothered to actually rent and play the stupid thing, so they dumped it on me to judge whether or not it was suitable for their kid, game in question being the PS1 version of Rhapsody.
(the DS version sucks, as they stripped out most of what made it so charming)

And thus, GUESS WHO gets stuck with having to pre-vet the anime these peoples kids are begging for xmas/birthday/whatever, in order to ensure it's actually suitable for their age group, because those ratings are about freakin worthless, honestly.

And since they know this, and can't get any other adult to watch it with em, and trying to discuss it with someone who ain't watched it is kinda pointless, again, guess who gets rooked into watching this stuff with em ?
(besides, it keeps em in one place and out of trouble during the convention, neh ?)

Ergo, I've seen a LOT of happy-fluffy childrens anime, and would be more than happy to share the misery, so it'd be ill advised to tempt me, there.

Now buzz off or I might slap you senseless with a Yotsuba Koiwai doll.

-Frem

PS - the idea of wussy-boy (I *refuse* to dignify that critter with an actual name) being well adjusted is a miracle beyond my comprehension, I ain't exactly sure I could suspend disbelief that far...

My ex watched NGE, and I have been very reluctant to find her a copy of end of evangelion cause if anything, the main characters are even more messed up by then, and for some odd reason she has a better opinion of em than I do, which I am loath to demolish by showing her that one.

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Monday, March 22, 2010 1:46 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Are you tryin' to make me poor? Deplete my existing DVD collection?
I'm done with anime for a while I think, once I've seen all of what I've got (and ordered).
Last Exile will complete my anime collection for now. My next & last order for this year.


Well, as they say..
Anime: Crack is Cheaper.

The key to it is patience, really, like an owl, you sit back, watch and wait, and then when an opportunity presents itself, you strike.

But it's the waiting that drives folk batty, most of em, sure.

Like, say, Le Chevalier D'Eon - complete collection super pack, retails for $184, could maybe nail it on amazon or somewhere for $50-$60
And I bagged it off today for $19.99, then backed it up by carrying off Pumpkin Scissors complete (retail $75+) for $22.50

And if you REALLY wanna brick-passer, that silly little clip I posted, the series it's from, Snow Fairy Sugar ?
Go on Amazon and have a look at what the full box set of THAT would cost you!
(I paid $58 for it, complete with summer special DVD and promo items)

But yeah, with money bein tight these days it's hard to stretch it so far - that bein one reason I picked out the ones I did to reccommend, since most of them you can get good bargains on.

What I do is set aside what I mean to pay for a set, and wait till it's in that price range to jump on it, and anything left over goes back into the budget - I got $29+S&H set up for Planetes, when I can find it from a decent distributor, and since imma be talkin to someone with connections soon about something else, it's a pretty good bet I'll nail it for that.

I like to watch em, but also consider it a financial investment of sorts too, cause man, what some of this stuff carries in value is insane - even *I* can't afford most of the Captain Harlock stuff, yeesh.

-Frem

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Monday, March 22, 2010 2:37 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:


And if you REALLY wanna brick-passer, that silly little clip I posted, the series it's from, Snow Fairy Sugar ?
Go on Amazon and have a look at what the full box set of THAT would cost you!
(I paid $58 for it



BWAHAHAHAHAHA....

Er... sorry Frem.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Monday, March 22, 2010 2:57 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I got $29+S&H set up for Planetes, when I can find it from a decent distributor, and since imma be talkin to someone with connections soon about something else, it's a pretty good bet I'll nail it for that.


Do it man; I'm on ep # 8, & it just keeps getting better!

On another note, we just got Castle In The Sky-
REALLY cool.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Monday, March 22, 2010 5:16 AM

I'm having one of those "Out Of Gas" moments here with Planetes... not nearly as intense, but there nonetheless.
This show it great. The character development is better than I expected.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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