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Are we animals, or something else?

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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:27 PM

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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
we have just as much right to eat another animal as any predator does.






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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And where exactly is our "soul" in all of that math?



Everywhere.


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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:40 PM

Does having a higher intellegence make us superior to other animals? That spark that allowed us to think in the abstract so we could invent the wheel and paint pictures on the walls of caves may be ready to strike another creature at any moment.

Some animals show a very high sense of spirituality. There are animals that mate for life. That makes me believe there is a spirtual sense involved. Elephants will stop when the come across some bones of a long ago member of their tribe and lift the bones up and toss them as if in some ritual. They also share in they duties of taking care of the young.

I know we have tests to measure I.Q., but I have not heard of a test or any tool to measure a creature's spirtuality.






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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:52 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
That's what I hoped Frem is saying. In which case, I agree.


Ayep, that's how I meant it - but I hadda put in that bit about heresy cause in essence, that is what brought us to technological civilization.

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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:25 PM

so if we are just animals... it's okay to have people as pets...

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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Others (like myself) feel that we are merely well-groomed talking chimps, with no exclusive franchise on "souls" or varieties of intellect.


We are animals because we have established the knowledge base to be able to properly define our place among other living things. We are not however just “well groomed chimps”. Recent discoveries in anthropology may show that we are not great apes at all as has been to most logical assumption in the past. Though we almost certainly share a common ancestor the great apes, apes probably evolved long after the split with upright walking hominids that we are directly descended from. We are defiantly superior in a survival of the fittest sense to other animals that have become extinct, but equal to those that have survived.

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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:47 PM

[Badger voice]
So, you think you're above the animals; better then."
[/Badger voice]


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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:26 PM

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When did a cat ever devise a weapon to destroy his entire species' ability to go on living?

Who says that's a bad thing? Perhaps one day we'll meet a group of warlike aliens, more intelligent than us, who see this as humanity's crowning achievement.

The human soul has its own character, and sense of moral beauty, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If cats were as intelligent as us and could build civilisations what would their morality be like? Perhaps they'd wipe out all other species of predator, then survey their world 'and see that it was good'.

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And where exactly is our "soul" in all of that math?

In the fact that you ask that question.

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Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:30 PM

Animals.

But we might have to rethink what it means to be an 'animal' instead of trying impress ourselves with how different we are from them.

We are them and they are us.

So, what's THAT mean ?


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


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Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


We are them and they are us.

So, what's THAT mean ?


Ummm... that you're a closet Buddhist?



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