Cheney Suffers Heart Attack Number Five
POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Saturday, February 27, 2010 20:31
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Completely fabricated and baseless hate, but I guess if that's the best y'all got.....
Their hate is real and the basis is that they don't like him...alot. That's their right, but that don't make it right.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Sorry, but I don't see much difference between Bin Laden & Cheney.
Nice one Chris! Do you say that out loud, in public too? Do you say that to your friends and family? I would never have imagined you could make a statement like that. I am highly disappointed, not only with your post, but with the majority of the other posts.
But on the other hand, I am not all that surprised. The partisanship is back in a big way it seems. So many thread subjects are all looking like flame-bait to me lately....postings of blatantly slanted opinions of Fox News, Sarah Palin, Republicans, etc. in an overly obsessive attempt to diminish others' opinions and views; typically with a good dose of disdainful condescension. I honestly felt good progress had been made in recent months to have dialogues here, but these types of threads every day leave me wonderin' why I come here. I don't see much, if any, common ground any longer. All good things.....
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Hero: Um, no, the basis is that a lot of us feel like he manipulated events proceeding up to the Iraq War, and possibly Afghanistan, in order to give Halliburton some very lush military contracts. At the very least, even if he didn't do this, then he comes off as shamelessly opportunistic and very callous towards the lives of soldiers and civilians.
Among other things, I'm sure. But that's probably the big one for most of us.
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Jongstraw: It would only be partisan if Chris was a member of Al Qaeda. Liberals and Al Qaeda really aren't the same thing. Even if it seems to the right-wing like they have similar goals, the ideologies are very different and pretty much incompatible. Imagine, say, Hillary Clinton, trying to convince members of Al Qaeda that they shouldn't make their women wear bhurqas. No, seriously, imagine it, I know you guys don't like Hillary, and all the screaming and blood would probably be cathartic for you.
Chris is expressing the opinion that "Liberator," "Insurgent," "Freedom fighter" and "Terrorist" might all be subjective if any of them happen to cause collateral damage or civilian death.
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Completely fabricated and baseless hate, but I guess if that's the best y'all got.....
Their hate is real and the basis is that they don't like him...alot. That's their right, but that don't make it right.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
This coming from the Republicans, the party that handed out Purple Heart Band-Aids at their convention, just to showcase their hatred of John Kerry and their disdain and denigration of his service to his country in a time of war - service that Dick Cheney, to his great and everlasting shame, weaseled out of FIVE TIMES. He's now been paid back in full for the blood on his hands from THAT little escapade. He's now had one heart attack for every person who had to take his place on the field of battle in a war that he outwardly supported while still taking the coward's way out.
Sometimes, there IS justice. Cheney's debt to the Vietnam veterans is now paid in full. We're still waiting for the bill to come due on his other wars. That bill should punch his ticket and stop his ticker for good, and I for one will be glad to see him launched into that great black void.
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
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But on the other hand, I am not all that surprised. The partisanship is back in a big way it seems. So many posts are all looking like flame-bait to me lately....postings of blatantly slanted opinions of Fox News, Sarah Palin, Republicans, etc. in an overly obsessive attempt to diminish others' opinions and views; typically with a good dose of disdainful condescension. I honestly felt good progress had been made in recent months to have dialogues here, but these types of threads every day leave me wonderin' why I come here. I don't see much, if any, common ground any longer.Quote:
I know which way my ideology leans, but I take offense at having my feelings about Dumbya, Cheney, Palin, Tea Partiers, etc. called "hate". It doesn’t matter, I know it’ll come and there’s nothing I can do about it, but I’m going to speak up nonetheless. About specifics (it’ll be long):
Their hate is real and the basis is that they don't like him...alot. That's their right, but that don't make it right.
Regarding Faux News. Bill O’Reilly:Quote:
Glenn Beck:
If Al Qaeda comes in here [San Francisco] and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. ... You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead. (11/8/05)
I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence. (2/20/08)
(Of Shawn Hornbeck, kidnapped and sodomized by Mike Devlin) The situation here, for this kid, looks to me to be a lot more fun than what he had under his 'old' parents. He didn't have to go to school, he could run around and do whatever he wanted (1/25/07)Quote:
Obama has "over and over again" exposed himself as "a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.” Beck said. "This guy is, I believe, a racist."
Yesterday, Glenn Beck took a pictorial tour of New York City, pointing out instances of decor that were, in his mind, coded references to crypto-fascist-communism-Obamaism. (9/3/09)
Beck compared getting medical care in India to buying a counterfeit “Gucci” handbag on the street.
Regarding Michael McLendon, who killed 10 people in a shooting spree before committing suicide: “Yada yada yada. And every time they do speak out, they’re shut down by political correctness. How do you not have those people turn into that guy?...But what they really described, when they really got down into it, what they said was: “here’s a guy who felt that he had been wronged. He didn’t feel comfortable talking to anybody. He was disgruntled and everything else.” And then he went out and shot a bunch of people.”
Only a few small samples of a huge volume of insane statements. Those aren’t “slanted opinions", they’re their own words. The people on Faux News condemn themselves quite easily, we don’t have to “slant” anything.
On Sarah Palin: She has provided all her own material, from not knowing the Bush Doctrine to not being able to say what she read to the bridge to nowhere to quitting mid-term to using a palm cheat sheet after dissing teleprompters (which she also uses) to cutting out on the people at book signings to ALL the other things which have clearly shown her to be unsuited for office, ignorant of the facts, and out for her own personal gain. I don’t need to take the time to cite the specifics, we’ve all heard them over and over. Again, we don’t have to slant anything; she provides the material herself. Just recently, condemning Emanuel for the use of “retard” in a private meeting yet defending O’Reilly (or Limbaugh? I get them confused) using it in definitely derogatory ways on TV, and not a word abut equally derogatory use of it by a TV show, if I remember correctly?
As to Republicans, I respect Republicans, those who act and speak intelligently. At this time in history the Republicans in our government are acting like children, flatly refusing to engage in legislating our country, lying over and over about “death panels”, Obama’s birth, and so many other things it takes someone blind or stupid NOT to
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im sure its been said, time and time again, but without the heart attacks there would be no evidence that mr. cheney had a heart.
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I’d like to have a snippet of what went on here while Dumbya was in office. I imagine I could make a lot of points by referencing those things, and in some cases, pertinent points were probably made...and I have no DOUBT anyone anti-Bush was ridiculed and demeaned.
Well, if you're ever feeling like doing some digging, there's a little link at the bottom of the forum page that says:
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READ THREADS THAT HAVE BEEN ARCHIVED...
Click on that, and it will almost instantly transport you back in time to early 2004 so you can read the ugliness for yourself.
I showed up in late 2005, after I found Firefly by way of Buffy and Angel, and I was in a bit of a minority then. Rue, Signy, Citizen, and DreamTrove were all around back then, as was Frem, but there were a LOT more hard-right hardheads around here then.
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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Quote:Thank you.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Sorry, but I don't see much difference between Bin Laden & Cheney.
Nice one Chris!
Quote:Why, yes, I do in point of fact.
Do you say that out loud, in public too? Do you say that to your friends and family?
Quote:Why?
I would never have imagined you could make a statement like that.
Look, I had issues aplenty with Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton & Dubya, but I never considered them as evil. Cheney? He not only gets seated in the evil section, he has his own row.
Quote:Some truth there, but some overreaction as well IMO.
I am highly disappointed, not only with your post, but with the majority of the other posts.
But on the other hand, I am not all that surprised. The partisanship is back in a big way it seems. So many thread subjects are all looking like flame-bait to me lately....postings of blatantly slanted opinions of Fox News, Sarah Palin, Republicans, etc. in an overly obsessive attempt to diminish others' opinions and views; typically with a good dose of disdainful condescension.
Quote:Yes, and MAINLY because of YOU, my friend.
I honestly felt good progress had been made in recent months to have dialogues here
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but these types of threads every day leave me wonderin' why I come here. I don't see much, if any, common ground any longer. All good things.....
This "Liberally" bent board needs a Conservative balance- sometimes Hero provides that (when he's not playing Authoritarian cheerleader), Finn used to until he left in a huff, and YOU are now the strongest & most respected Conservative voice here. We need you.
I said my piece, FWIW.
The laughing Chrisisall
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...and YOU are now the strongest & most respected Conservative voice here. We need you.
Seconded.
We need RIPWash around more, too. And AnthonyT, who tended to lean fairly conservative on many issues, and veered a bit to the left on others, but could almost universally be counted on to have a level-headed dialog, no matter what the issue.
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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