Cheney crawls out from under his rock...again...
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Thursday, October 2, 2025 17:35
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Yes, Rue, I think you’re right; just look at CPAC and all that’s going on there...it’s pretty hard core right; and huge applause with “Run Dick Run” greeting Cheney? Doesn’t sound moderate to me.
By the way, I’m an independent; and what the Right has done the past eight years, right up to now, has sickened me. My husband and I were both scared of Dumbya before he was elected, and he even topped OUR fears of what he might do!
I dunno, JS, the percentages may be roughly right, but according to Rassmussen:Quote:
That of course doesn’t say precisely what the ideology is, like who’s moderate Dem and who’s very Left, etc., so maybe you’re right, who knows? Certainly you’re right that you have to get a good percentage of “independents” (reflected by those who say they’re unaffiliated) to win.
35.4% of American adults view themselves as Democrats. That’s down from 35.5% a month ago and 36.0 two months ago. Prior to last month, the lowest total ever recorded for Democrats was 35.9%, a figure that was reached twice in 2005. See the History of Party Trends from January 2004 to the present.
The number of Republicans is now down to 32.3%. The number of Republicans in the country has stayed between 32.3% and 34.05% in every month for the past 18 months.
The number of adults not affiliated with either major party is now up to 32.3%. That’s the highest number of unaffiliateds since the summer of 2007.
Rasmussen Reports tracks this information based on telephone interviews with approximately 15,000 adults per month and has been doing so since November 2002. The margin of error for the full sample is less than one percentage point, with a 95% level of confidence.
As has been the case in every month over the past seven years of tracking, there are more Democrats than Republicans in the nation. The gap is currently 3.1 percentage points, up from 1.5 percentage points a month ago.
Damn, Mike, you made me see both those images. Now my day is ruined! All I can say to the photo and concept is: 
Like Cuda, I’m going to have nightmares now...damn you!
Good one, Byte! Llamas? Where? Where are the llamas? No—wait, I don’t want to look at it again!
Elvis, you volunteering? I'll provide the rock...
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Excusing bad behavior by pointing out another's bad behavior is not a meaningful or just analogy. Besides, if Cheney was so concerned with his "image" and/or place in history, then why didn't he EVER defend Bush or himself during the 8 years they ran the country? During the 8 years the liberal media was ripping them to shreds every day? He said nothing, he was too aloof, too important, too existential, too whatever.
I'm at a loss too as to why Bush / Cheney NEVER engaged in overly defending their policies or speaking up for their decisions. It was maddening as hell to see the LMS (Lame Stream Media ) , along w/ the presser-a-day Democrats come out and routinely bash, bash, and then bash some more. I swear to god, it had to be some asinine view that Bush had, and defending the honor and dignity of the Office, to not engage in the very sort of overt partisan grandstanding the current office holders exhibit. Hey W.....it didn't work!
I kinda get that, to a point, but eventually, you HAVE to stand up for your views. Bush virtually never did that, and I'm sure he kept Cheney on a short leash - unlike what Obama SHOULD be doing w/ Biden. Like he ever could, if he wanted to.
Cheney, unencumbered by Bush's leash now, is simply standing up and denying Biden and Obama's attempt to rewrite history. I say, good for Cheney. My only problem is....wtf took ya so damn long ?
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I don't think Cheney gave a damn what people thought while he was in office. Remember him saying just that? He did what he wanted, knew he could do what he wanted, and I think was deluded enough by their hope of a "permanent Republican majority" to think it wouldn't matter...OR, a good chance is he actually BELIEVED all that shit, and thought history would show him to be right.
Remember how much fear consumes this man...he's a prime example of paranoid meglomania, sees the world as all evil, out to get him...the worst kind of "true believer". Now that history and the people are going after him, maybe that's what brought him out from under his rock to defend himself (and to an extent Dumbya) for "history's sake". Who knows?
Somehow I doubt the Republicans have anything to do with dragging him out from under the rock, I don't think he'd let himself be used, it's what he truly believes.
I think, given his paranoia and how he sees everything has turned against them, he also may be insistently proclaiming torture WORKED, lest he and Dumbya and their cronies get called up on charges...which looks less likely today than it even did before. He has, after all, CONFESSED to torture.
Won't ever convince me Cheney was on any kind of "leash". Looks like the ONLY thing Dumbya ever did that Cheney didn't like was refuse the pardon.
Yes, I'm engaging the wind (SHOCK!). There SEEMS to be a slight change in tone, like maybe some actual conversation MIGHT be possible. I'll only give it one try, just to see. Maybe I'm a fool. We'll see.
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I read a blog this morning - can't remember where, I'm traveling and been surfing all morning - about how Cheney's battle isn't really with Obama. He's trying to frame the debate that way to get the Republican machine behind him, but he's really just continuing a battle he's been losing for years.
All those 300+ weren't treated as enemy combatants during the Bush/Cheney years because Cheney lost. Bush didn't do things his way.
It's an interesting perspective: Cheney isn't really being hypocritical about this as much as he's still pushing his own agenda. But he's putting the Dems on the other side without acknowledging that Repubs were also against his plans to make the US a totalitarian military regime.
ETA Here it is: http://www.slate.com/id/2245172/pagenum/2
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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Remember how much fear consumes this man...he's a prime example of paranoid meglomania, sees the world as all evil, out to get him...the worst kind of "true believer". Now that history and the people are going after him, maybe that's what brought him out from under his rock to defend himself (and to an extent Dumbya) for "history's sake". Who knows?
No, you have it completely wrong. Cheney sees the world for what it really is. The al Qaeda types for who they actually are. He probably knows about far more shit that went on that the general public and lame stream press will never report on. I mean, 9/11, as well as a list of other attacks ACTUALLY did happen.
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I think, given his paranoia and how he sees everything has turned against them, he also may be insistently proclaiming torture WORKED, lest he and W and their cronies get called up on charges...which looks less likely today than it even did before. He has, after all, CONFESSED to torture.
There was no torture. None. Waterboarding sucks, but it was rarely used, and it worked. Biden and Obama are the ones motivated by politics to try to rewrite history. And as is the case w/ so many other things, the people are starting to wake up and realize what they've been ignoring.
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first.
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Speakin of things that crawled out from under a rock...
Alexander Haig just capped it.
And think of me what you will, I'm not exactly sympathetic, cause lets look at his "legacy"...
Good buddies with MacArthur, yanno, the guy that made his bones stomping on army vets (Bonus Marchers) with spiked boots, that bastard black bagger Ailes, and of course old "Lets pretend it didn't happen" McNamra.
Head of the NSA under Nixon, up to his ass in the dirtiest business of the era, all those programs with funky names, yanno, and eventually chief of staff for what was up till recently the slimest critter to ever sleaze it's way into the white house, only to pratfall as one of his proteges, one Donald Rumsfeld, gave him ye olde political dagger to the spine, which didn't stop him from creeping back in under Reagan, as Secretary of State, much like these critters do if you don't finish em off when you got the chance.
And he was sleazin around in the backroom chumfests of the Bush administration too, for that matter.
Also worthy of my ire is his chummy relations with Steve Case and the rest of those bastards at America Online, who not only "set the standard" for bullshit accounting practices and the prime example companies like Enron followed, but also catapulted internet predators into the mainstream by deliberately catering to them and offering a protected environment.
(See Also: Barry Crimmins Testimony to Senate Judiciary Committee, 104th US Congress for details)
And that's just the quick capsule version.
As such, there's really nothing nice I could say, and a lotta really cruel ones, but I'll limit it to just one.
"Less than a thousand" just got reduced by one.
Now if only Kissinger would be so kind.
-F
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And he was sleazin around in the backroom chumfests of the Bush administration too, for that matter.
Curious remark, in light of the marathon backroom chumfests going on w/ the current administration, the most open and transparenty ever...
Huh.
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first.
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Mal: the link you put up validates one of my points...Quote:
That upholds my view that he’s attempting to revise history, however I, too, believe what he says is what he believes, an outgrowth of his own ideology.
What Cheney really wants is a restoration of torture and an evisceration of civilian control well beyond the point favored by even his own party's leaders and officeholders—even George W. Bush. His attacks on Obama are actually attempts at revisionist history, part of a campaign to elevate the issue as one of Republicans against Democrats, or conservatives against liberals—when, in fact, it's just Dick Cheney flailing at dragons that fried him long ago.
Damn, there goes that noise again. I saw a rat run right past on my windowsill a few days ago, maybe it was that rattling in the bushes...poor thing. Or maybe it was the rain which just started. It's forecast to increase throughout the day, hope it doesn't get too noisy.
Or could we have trolls out in the redwoods? 
No matter; whatever it was, it'll go away soon enough.
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Liz?
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