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SF Movies/TV shows as good as or better than Firefly/Serenity

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:28 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:
I mirror the opinions stating that FIREFLY is the best TV show ever (sci fi, non-genre, whatever). For my money, the only thing that comes close is THE SHIELD.



Agree on those thoughts about TV and THE SHIELD, and I'll throw in THE WIRE, but both are so different than FF.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:32 PM

I agree with a lot of the people here. There is no better TV series than Firefly. I can't think of anything that even comes close. I was trying to think of my favorite TV show on the air currently and there's nothing that I really like even out there right now.

As for movies there are better. I don't know about better scifi movies. It's sort of tough to compare. Empire Strikes Back is great but a very different style movie IMO. I really can't think of many great scifi movies. Though I can think of a lot of movies in other genre's I'd rank higher than Serenity overall.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:32 PM

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Originally posted by boris:
The original Battlestar Galactica had a similar appeal for me as Firefly at the time that I was into it though it's so obviously retro now, I invested a bit of my heart in the series and characters, and still watch it nostalgically. Like Firefly It makes me feel warm and fuzzy...and I still want to be the woman that Starbuck retires with.


That original show had a great family feel to it, and it is still very much beloved, as evidenced by the popularity of the former cast who regularly attend sci-fi conventions. The cast members that I've met have all been very friendly, and they're all appreciative of how loyal the fans still are to that show.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:40 PM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
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Originally posted by GWEK:
I mirror the opinions stating that FIREFLY is the best TV show ever (sci fi, non-genre, whatever). For my money, the only thing that comes close is THE SHIELD.



Agree on those thoughts about TV and THE SHIELD, and I'll throw in THE WIRE, but both are so different than FF.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com]

Yes, THE SHIELD and FIREFLY are superficially very different, but I'd argue that good storytelling and good characterization is universal.

And, honestly, taking away the trappings of setting, and isn't Mackey just a much darker version of Mal, doing what he feels he must to keep his family together (both his literal one and the Strike Team) while he "keeps flying"? If Simon were less pretty and had a different talent than medicine, might be not be too different from the also too-smart-for-his-own-good and socially-awkward Dutch?

Seriously, though, individual characters aside, I think both shows are about disparate groups of people forced by circumstance to live/work together on a daily basis. Sure, that describes many, many shows, but, hey, most of them don't pull it off nearly as well as either of these two...

Certainly, while working on the Virtual Series over at www.stillflying.net, FIREFLY itself was top of mind, but my writing was equally informed by shows like THE SHIELD, PRISON BREAK, LOST, CARNIVALE, and RESCUE ME (most of which share the FIREFLY themes of forced/found family and marginalized "outsider" heroes).

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:52 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:
... taking away the trappings of setting, and isn't Mackey just a much darker version of Mal, doing what he feels he must to keep his family together (both his literal one and the Strike Team) while he "keeps flying"? If Simon were less pretty and had a different talent than medicine, might be not be too different from the also too-smart-for-his-own-good and socially-awkward Dutch?





Muuuuuuch darker. Gives me the chills just remembering that show!

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:02 PM

True enough... although maybe not darker than Inara getting gang-raped by Reavers (as Whedon had originally considered...)

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:28 PM

I forgot The Prisoner. A high water mark in all of television.
But I like Firefly more.


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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:29 PM

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Originally posted by boris:
The original Battlestar Galactica had a similar appeal for me as Firefly at the time that I was into it though it's so obviously retro now, I invested a bit of my heart in the series and characters, and still watch it nostalgically. Like Firefly It makes me feel warm and fuzzy...and I still want to be the woman that Starbuck retires with.


That original show had a great family feel to it, and it is still very much beloved, as evidenced by the popularity of the former cast who regularly attend sci-fi conventions. The cast members that I've met have all been very friendly, and they're all appreciative of how loyal the fans still are to that show.

The ep where Serena dies destroys me...



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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:18 PM

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Originally posted by Haken:

Though, not sci-fi, I was a big fan of The X-Files and Millennium.




Okay.... now I could see maybe Mellenium.... but how is the X-Files, a show that revolved in great part around aliens - NOT sci fi?

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:19 PM

Oh, yeah - since others reminded me, let me also add Deadwood, The Wire and The Shield to my list.

Really, the 00's was a hell of a decade for TV.

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