Jews build 'Museum of Tolerance' on 1,000s of Arab graves

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

The way this thread is going ( to its credit ) is non racist ( none of PNs usual rant),

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Ya just HAD to provoke him....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Originally posted by Storymark:

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

The way this thread is going ( to its credit ) is non racist ( none of PNs usual rant),

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Ya just HAD to provoke him....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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I know....




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What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"

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Dorit Beinisch .. Israeli Supreme Court President.

I can understand why the Government of Netanyahu wants to make changes in their High Court. This woman sounds like a real human being with feelings and everything.


Here is a little excerpt, the wiki article goes deeper.

Views and opinions

Beinisch has focused on government corruption and to ensuring that government institutions adhere to the law, with a particular emphasis placed on the IDF, the police and general security services. Among her many notable rulings as a Supreme Court Justice is a decision holding that parents cannot use corporal punishment. Even mild spanking, wrote Beinisch in 2000, “infringes on [the child’s] rights as a human being. It damages his body, his feelings, his dignity and his proper development,” and is therefore “forbidden today in our society.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorit_Beinisch

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Originally posted by Littlebird:

Dorit Beinisch .. Israeli Supreme Court President.

I can understand why the Government of Netanyahu wants to make changes in their High Court. This woman sounds like a real human being with feelings and everything.


Here is a little excerpt, the wiki article goes deeper.

Views and opinions

Beinisch has focused on government corruption and to ensuring that government institutions adhere to the law, with a particular emphasis placed on the IDF, the police and general security services. Among her many notable rulings as a Supreme Court Justice is a decision holding that parents cannot use corporal punishment. Even mild spanking, wrote Beinisch in 2000, “infringes on [the child’s] rights as a human being. It damages his body, his feelings, his dignity and his proper development,” and is therefore “forbidden today in our society.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorit_Beinisch

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I read a little about her too...

On the plus side, if Netanyahu sacks her, maybe she would consider moving the the Hague...

She would be nearly ideal for the international criminal court, as a judge, or as a lead prosecutor...




Either you Are with the terrorists, or ... you Are with the terrorists

Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
The crazy thing I think the agenda is being driven by an minority even in Jewish Israel. I have read many articles about how they oppose Israeli policy but their voices are squashed as well.

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That's one thing that seriously pissed me off too, not just at the damn Likud, but also at the people on the other side building bombs - cause it makes no logical sense to blow up folk with no stake in policy, no voice to change it, and thus little responsibility for it - who mostly oppose it in the first damned place.

But yeah, there's folks on either side that are exactly the same, point the finger and scream, and send fools to die to obtain and maintain power, so upsetting the status quo and removing the external "threat" that keeps them in power is the last thing they wanna do.

So both the bombers and the IDF slobs lobbing artillery at em are both in the same position, being sacrificed to wind up an enemy neither side really WANTS to defeat.

Were I Palestinian, THOSE assholes would get their throats cut in a hurry, being technically on "my" side or not, and followed up with a page from ole pufferfish...

Kim Jong may be a nasty little prick, but the man is NOT stupid, he got hisself a nuke, and he aimed it at Washington D.C. - which means instead of sending hordes of cannon fodder to die for political points, those on capitol hill making the decision to fuck with him will be the first ones sent to hell - and golly gee, look how FAST that bullshit sabre rattling STOPPED, ehe ?

If they wanna blow someone up about Israels policies, they oughta start with the fuckers making and approving those policies, not the shitheads carrying them out!

And that's the weak link too, cause Palestines decentralized and ad-hoc leadership, such as it is, is not as vulnerable to that tactic in reverse, cause of the high turnover due to casualties and the need for distributed authority for that very reason.

-F

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
The crazy thing I think the agenda is being driven by an minority even in Jewish Israel. I have read many articles about how they oppose Israeli policy but their voices are squashed as well.

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That's one thing that seriously pissed me off too, not just at the damn Likud, but also at the people on the other side building bombs - cause it makes no logical sense to blow up folk with no stake in policy, no voice to change it, and thus little responsibility for it - who mostly oppose it in the first damned place.

But yeah, there's folks on either side that are exactly the same, point the finger and scream, and send fools to die to obtain and maintain power, so upsetting the status quo and removing the external "threat" that keeps them in power is the last thing they wanna do.

So both the bombers and the IDF slobs lobbing artillery at em are both in the same position, being sacrificed to wind up an enemy neither side really WANTS to defeat.

Were I Palestinian, THOSE assholes would get their throats cut in a hurry, being technically on "my" side or not, and followed up with a page from ole pufferfish...

Kim Jong may be a nasty little prick, but the man is NOT stupid, he got hisself a nuke, and he aimed it at Washington D.C. - which means instead of sending hordes of cannon fodder to die for political points, those on capitol hill making the decision to fuck with him will be the first ones sent to hell - and golly gee, look how FAST that bullshit sabre rattling STOPPED, ehe ?

If they wanna blow someone up about Israels policies, they oughta start with the fuckers making and approving those policies, not the shitheads carrying them out!

And that's the weak link too, cause Palestines decentralized and ad-hoc leadership, such as it is, is not as vulnerable to that tactic in reverse, cause of the high turnover due to casualties and the need for distributed authority for that very reason.

-F

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Still ultimately responsible Frem, they pay the taxes, serve in their conscripted army, and fail to force change where that change is in their primary interest...


Between Gulf war 1, the Sanctions, and Gulf War 2... what maybe a million and a half Iraqs, maybe more went down so the US could say they got Saddam right ?

The leadership thing is a great point, the decentralized structure they created now gives them nobody to negotiate with, no one leadership fiqure the could come to a compromise with... Arfat was the closest hope, but he is gone...

And you see the US trying to do the same with the Taliban...

bad tactics, unless you want a forever war








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Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Still ultimately responsible Frem, they pay the taxes, serve in their conscripted army, and fail to force change where that change is in their primary interest...

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Yeah, well, problem with that is that enough damned fools are still willing to kill em on orders of that government if they refuse to comply.

We got THAT problem right here, too.

End result of refusing to "play ball", is either thrown under the jail, if you meekly comply, or getting very dead if you don't - and if they start running out of jails, they'll just get the idiots still listenin to em to build more, like we do here.

Gettin incarcerated or dead doesn't help anyone, in fact often enough it provides just one more fucking excuse to crush internal dissent all the harder, so the only option left is slipping sand in the gears when no one is lookin, till the machine starts to fall apart.

Watchin those loose gears rattle is about all the satisfaction I have at the moment, but it's pretty satisfyin knowin that there's TEN TIMES more where that came from than when I started this...


They'd be well-advised to do the same.

-F

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Still ultimately responsible Frem, they pay the taxes, serve in their conscripted army, and fail to force change where that change is in their primary interest...

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Yeah, well, problem with that is that enough damned fools are still willing to kill em on orders of that government if they refuse to comply.

We got THAT problem right here, too.

End result of refusing to "play ball", is either thrown under the jail, if you meekly comply, or getting very dead if you don't - and if they start running out of jails, they'll just get the idiots still listenin to em to build more, like we do here.

Gettin incarcerated or dead doesn't help anyone, in fact often enough it provides just one more fucking excuse to crush internal dissent all the harder, so the only option left is slipping sand in the gears when no one is lookin, till the machine starts to fall apart.

Watchin those loose gears rattle is about all the satisfaction I have at the moment, but it's pretty satisfyin knowin that there's TEN TIMES more where that came from than when I started this...


They'd be well-advised to do the same.

-F

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Crushing Internal Dissent is good my friend,

let them squeeze, and rant, and push

it exposes them for what they are, and without that pressure they could go on forever with their bullshit unnoticed

exposing them on the outside cuts them off from support

and crushing dissent on the inside, if you force them to squeeze tight enough starts revolutions

France

Russia

Cuba

Iran

Look at any of them, people under the yoke eventually push back... it can be ugly, and many of the oppressors don't fair well in the process

But who am I to judge

But every revolution needs a spark, and here is hoping for sparks






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