Favourite TV/movie/toon take on the Man Of Steel?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, February 11, 2010 17:31
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Honestly, the Donnor cut is a mixed bag, as it was never properly finished. A quick breakdown:
The Good: It feels more tonally consistent with the first film, and also follows the plot directly - in this version the nuke Supes sends into space at the end of 1 is what frees Zod and Co. from the Phantom Zone. Most of the goofy humor that Lester added has been removed, as have the extra powers Supes develops at the end (so no celophane S shield). There are a few entirely new scenes, mainly having to do with Luthor in prison.
I thought the Donner cut was closer to the third film in tone. Just sort of goofy. Thank god for the 'real' Superman 2.
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Quote:Superman didn't do it- Clark did.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
After working out.
Yikes, Supes is a schizo.
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Originally posted by OPPYH:
I thought the Donner cut was closer to the third film in tone. Just sort of goofy.
You saw a different film than I did, clearly!
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You saw a different film than I did, clearly!
The laughing Chrisisall
No, parts of it were interesting...but come on.
You'd actually watch the Donner cut over the Lester version?
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Quote:Most of it was BETTER, just not, like, you know, a complete movie....
Originally posted by OPPYH:
parts of it were interesting
Quote:As I said above, I usually watch the first two thirds of Lester's version, then switch to the Donner Cut; the dopeyness of the disco skater, the "home run," the "kiss of forgetfulness," the big giant celophane "S" & more makes me sick in the Lester cut.
You'd actually watch the Donner cut over the Lester version?
The laughing Chrisisall
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It is certainly an unfinished film, and so is going to be compromised from the get go. But as cheesy as 3??? The Lester version is loaded with cheese that isn't in the Donner version, so that just makes no sense to me.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:We must make sure he actually *watches* it...
Originally posted by Storymark:
But as cheesy as 3??? The Lester version is loaded with cheese that isn't in the Donner version, so that just makes no sense to me.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:Ok, as a whole not as cheesy(no Richard Pryor)because it retains much of the footage of the Lester version. But it certainly has its cheesy moments. Lois jumping out of a window 20 stories up on a hunch? I know the Lester version is kind of similar with the Niagra Falls bit, but This just seemed much more sudden(very near the beginning of the film). The fact that she doesn't even question how she survived the fall is beyond me.
Originally posted by Storymark:
It is certainly an unfinished film, and so is going to be compromised from the get go. But as cheesy as 3??? The Lester version is loaded with cheese that isn't in the Donner version, so that just makes no sense to me.
The archival footage(screening test) of Lois and and the handgun with blanks feels out of place, and clunky. It is kind of clever though.
I have always loved the three villains storming the White House..extra violence, and more of a gauge as to hoqw sinister they really are. This was added in the original broadcast premiere of Superman 2 on ABC.
And though I love the extra Brando Kal-El footage, it tends to get a little heavy handed, and I feel it slows the pace of the film.
And the Finale, spinning the world back through time again? I'm not sure if this was meant to be only at the end of the second(Donner's film) and not included in the first film?
But if you watch 1, and then the Donner cut...redundant.
Maybe because I grew up with the Lester version(I love it), but the Donner cut is more like one big deleted scene for me, and I'll never watch it beginning to end again. But it is a neat addition to my Superman collection of dvd's.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
We must make sure he actually *watches* it...
How dare you, I like the Christopher Reeve Superman films more than you
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Quote:IN the Donner Cut, btw.
Originally posted by OPPYH:
I have always loved the three villains storming the White House..extra violence, and more of a gauge as to hoqw sinister they really are. This was added in the original broadcast premiere of Superman 2 on ABC.
Quote:A necessity to put in, but not to watch.
And the Finale, spinning the world back through time again?
Quote:Me too, but the Donner Cut was my Holy Grail. What might have been. And what I can make it each time I see it, with a little disk-switching & skipping.
I grew up with the Lester version
The laughing Chrisisall
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