Favourite TV/movie/toon take on the Man Of Steel?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, February 11, 2010 17:31
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:I liked the I Love Lucy appearance!
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The Adventures Of Superman TV Series
Great one! Almost as good as when Superman steals John Wayne's cement handprints from Graumann's Chinese Theater, and Ethel blabs it to Fred.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Someone stole his coke stash, and he feels blaming a dead man (with no record of drug use) will somehow bring it back?
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
That, or he's been taking lessons from PN...
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Figured I'd ask this question here instead of making a specific thread for it;
Has anyone seen the Richard Donner cut of Superman 2? I keep seeing the DVD collection of both, and wondered whether it was worth getting. It's double the price of just getting the regular version, but you do get both versions.
So just wondering if it's actually worth getting both versions of the film, or whether I'm better off just getting the 'official' version.
Cheers!
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Honestly, the Donnor cut is a mixed bag, as it was never properly finished. A quick breakdown:
The Good: It feels more tonally consistent with the first film, and also follows the plot directly - in this version the nuke Supes sends into space at the end of 1 is what frees Zod and Co. from the Phantom Zone. Most of the goofy humor that Lester added has been removed, as have the extra powers Supes develops at the end (so no celophane S shield). There are a few entirely new scenes, mainly having to do with Luthor in prison.
The Bad: Because Donner never had a chance to finish the film, there are some obvious concessions made to make this movie work. The most obvious are the scene where Clark and Lois check into their hotel at Niagara falls - instead of the Lester-directed scene we know, we get Donnor's version - which was never actually shot, so this cut features the original screen test between Reeves and Kidder - which happened to have been that scene. So for one scene in the middel of the film, both actors are younger and Clark is significantly less muscular.
The most obvious difference/flaw is the ending. When Donnor was onboard, they hadn't written an ending for the first film, and when he was fired, they took the ending from the 2nd film (rewind the world) and put it in the first (leaving Lester to come up with the reverse kryptonite chamber to end his no. 2). So, the Donnor cut of 2 ends exactly the same way 1 did - with Superman rewinding time to undo the damage Zod had done.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:Storymark was pretty much spot-on here.
Originally posted by BigRichard:
So just wondering if it's actually worth getting both versions of the film, or whether I'm better off just getting the 'official' version.
Personally, I HAD to own both. Generally, I watch the Lester version up until Superman says "General, would you care to step outside?", then I switch to the Donner Cut for the rest of the movie(the final battle & the confrontation at the Fortress of Solitude are MUCH better handled in that one), making sure to hit the "skip" button twice when I see Perry in his bathroom to "cut out" the superfluous & redundant turning time back thing- this gives the effect of Lois retaining her memory & makes much more sense of the scene where Clark goes back to the diner to mess with the douchebag trucker.
But, the whole Donner Cut is fascinating to watch in any case IMO.
The Kryptonian Chrisisall
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Originally posted by lwaves:
I was gonna mention Smallville as well but I guess he hasn't actually been Superman yet so I guess it doesn't count.
Yeah, I noticed that show wasn't even included in last place, but I've only seen about 10 minutes of an episode (and I wasn't the slightest bit impressed).
It's been, what, 9 years this show's been on, and the closest thing to the classic costume he wears is a red jacket over a blue shirt? That's all I ever see in promos.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
makes much more sense of the scene where Clark goes back to the diner to mess with the douchebag trucker.
That's one part that bothered me. Having Supes go back and totally trash the guy just to get even never seemed very Superman-like to me.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:Superman didn't do it- Clark did.
Originally posted by Storymark:
That's one part that bothered me. Having Supes go back and totally trash the guy just to get even never seemed very Superman-like to me.
After working out.
The laughing Chrisisall
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alright, I might go with both then, the Donner cut sounds interesting if nothing else.
Thanks Storymark and CiA!
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Quote:More than that- the Metropolis fight, although not lengthened, is cleaned up so much (mostly goofy s**t taken out) that you'll not want to watch the Lester version of it ever again IMO.
Originally posted by BigRichard:
the Donner cut sounds interesting if nothing else.
The laughing Chrisisall
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