Warriors of the wasteland: Post-apocalypse movies
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Quote:This conversation was initally about Dark Angel. Since you clearly didn't read it higher in the thread, I shall copy/paste it for you:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
So what's YOUR definittion of "apocalypse"? A societal collapse? An enormous loss of life?
Dark Angel isn't in the post-apocalypse genre. The world of that verse continues, albeit in an overwhelming economic depression. Society is still holding together and there is a framework of law. Compare that to the 1st Mad Max film where society is falling apart and the framework of law is crumbling into nothing.
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:Quote:This conversation was initally about Dark Angel. Since you clearly didn't read it higher in the thread, I shall copy/paste it for you:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
So what's YOUR definittion of "apocalypse"? A societal collapse? An enormous loss of life?
Dark Angel isn't in the post-apocalypse genre. The world of that verse continues, albeit in an overwhelming economic depression. Society is still holding together and there is a framework of law. Compare that to the 1st Mad Max film where society is falling apart and the framework of law is crumbling into nothing.
I read it; I just don't agree with your assessment. Or, as you told Chris, your opinion is wrong.
I asked you to clarify your terms, which you haven't done. So didn't you read my post? Shall I repost it for you, since you clearly didn't read or understand it?
And by the way, this conversation was ORIGINALLY about favorite post-apocalypse movies, NOT Dark Angel. You really should pay attention!
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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Quote:No. I told that to JSF. You are still not reading very well.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I read it; I just don't agree with your assessment. Or, as you told Chris, your opinion is wrong.
And on the subject of not reading you might want to actually read posts in the thread. If you do you'll note that Chris said:
I define apocalypse as in where millions die or there's a more than 50% loss of infrastructure. By that reckoning, Dark Angel does not qualify. But some peeps would consider a major shift in world economic power and individual freedoms to be enough...
...which more-or-less echos my statement. So why should I disagree with that?
Quote:*sigh* Yes indeed. Which is exactly why I refuted its presence in the thread. Really Kwik, you should actually read before jumping in upon another discussion. Leave your RWED tactics for the RWED section.
And by the way, this conversation was ORIGINALLY about favorite post-apocalypse movies, NOT Dark Angel. You really should pay attention!
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Ah - I mistook JSF's post on Dark Angel for one of Chris's posts. Not an unlikely occurrence, since when it comes to discussing Dark Angel, it usually IS Chris who's doing the discussing.
Still, in the framework of post-apocalypse, I'd say DA qualifies. I sure LOOKS like about half the societal order is gone. And if all you need to disqualify something from apocalyptic is a loose framework of law and society, then even A Boy and His Dog would be disqualified. Hell, there were even SOME rules in the Mad Max trilogy...
By the way, you jumping in with crap like "No. You're wrong" makes it look like you got your debating tactics from AuRaptor, so are you really sure you want to be impugning anyone else's? 'Cause if you want to go that route, I can already tell you you're wrong. Even if it IS just your opinion, it's still wrong. :)
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ah - I mistook JSF's post on Dark Angel for one of Chris's posts. Not an unlikely occurrence, since when it comes to discussing Dark Angel, it usually IS Chris who's doing the discussing.
Still, in the framework of post-apocalypse, I'd say DA qualifies. I sure LOOKS like about half the societal order is gone. And if all you need to disqualify something from apocalyptic is a loose framework of law and society, then even A Boy and His Dog would be disqualified. Hell, there were even SOME rules in the Mad Max trilogy...
By the way, you jumping in with crap like "No. You're wrong" makes it look like you got your debating tactics from AuRaptor, so are you really sure you want to be impugning anyone else's? 'Cause if you want to go that route, I can already tell you you're wrong. Even if it IS just your opinion, it's still wrong. :)
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
Yowza. Maybe somebody slipped some drugs into my protein. Kwicko is making sense, and seems like for a week or so. And BSCM hasn't made sense in most of this thread.
Maybe I should visit RWED.
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Ha! :)
Thanks for that. I think. ;)
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n.
2. Great or total devastation; doom: the apocalypse of nuclear war.
This is my understanding of the word, Mike.
So I'd label Dark Angel Post-major-economic-event, but not post-apocalypse.
The laughing Chrisisall
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It gets us into an existential question, though, doesn't it?
Does the devastation have to be GLOBAL, or can it be localized, say, to one country? Could Europe view WWII as "apocalyptic"? Could Haiti be seen as "post-apocalyptic" now?
Or do we in the U.S. only apply that kind of nomenclature to things that directly involve American soil and casualties?
In other words, where does your apocalypse end and mine begin?
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Warriors of the wasteland: Post-apocalypse movies
And, of course, the simplest, easiest disqualification of all, that everyone seems to have overlooked, is that Dark Angel wasn't a movie, but rather a TV series.
Sometimes we just have to complicate the simple stuff, eh?
Of course, Jericho and The Day After weren't movies either...
And how come nobody mentioned Jericho?
Life is a thought experiment.
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The fact of the matter is, when it comes to Post Apocalyptic movies there isn't a whole helluva lot to choose from.
There are a slew of Italian PA movies(1990:Bronx Warriors, The New Barbarians) but those are MST3K fare at best.
I consider Planet of the Apes the only "really good"
PA movie. The 70's, and 80's were the perfect time to utilize this genre. Sadly writers, and studios passed on the idea.
We got plenty of Fantasy, and Sci-Fi though so I guess I shouldn't complain
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