No way will they axe the show
POSTED BY: SadGeezer
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 19:09
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Many dramas obviously change timeslots, and there certainly are negative rumours, and Fox has done a lot to promote the show. But those negative rumours do not appear to be coming from Fox. No rumour can be considered legitimate, if it represents nothing more the opinion of anyone not directly affiliated with Fox. To the best of my knowledge Fox has made no claim, about Firefly that hasn't been positive. And while Fox has done a lot to promote the show, it certainly wasn't done all they could have done and there are certainly many things they can still do. Whether they will do those things is anyone's guess.
None of this means Fox won't cancel the show, and the Neilson numbers are low. But there is more to the Neilson numbers then is at first obvious. A low Neilson rating might be acceptable if a network can make the case that that rating is representative of a particularly wealthy section of the population or if that network believes the show may produce if given time. Considering the TiVo numbers there is certainly reason to suggest that. In the end, there is no clear evidence one way or another for the cancellation of Firefly.
This means, that if you opt for a pessimistic view, you do so purely on your own accord, there's nothing solid to back you up. I'm a realist. And as a realist, in the absence of solid evidence either way, I will always choose the more optimistic view.
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Originally posted by outlander:
Why don't we just wait and see what happens. If there is no official word over the next week then we'll know that SyFy Portal's comments are bogus and just the same old rummers that have been floating around for weeks. I think everybody needs to take a couple of deep breaths and then wait for an official word from Fox.
I'm all for that. I could care less about rumors, wasn't even reading those parts.
It was the claim that "Fox has given it (Firefly) every opportunity to succeed." that set me off.
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Originally posted by IlGreven:Quote:
millernate sez:
1. They promoted the show constantly on American Idol (Fox's big "Everyone in the World is watching" show, much like Survivor for CBS).
...'cuz we ALL know dreck like AI is PRIME breeding ground for sci-fi geeks...
A short play (satire)
Scene: Two young men are sitting on the couch watching American Idol. During a commercial break, Fox airs a promo for Firefly.
Young man #1: Yeah, I'm gonna watch that. I heard it sucks!
Young man #2: F***, who cares, man? We always go out partying Friday night.
Both (raising their beverages in unison): "WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
Young man #1: Dude . . . (bleches loudly) . . . pass me another brew.
American Idol resumes.
Young man #2: I want that chick to win. She's hot.
End scene.
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double post.
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Well as much as I dislike the tone of the original poster I had to agree with them:
1. They promoted the show constantly on American Idol (Fox's big "Everyone in the World is watching" show, much like Survivor for CBS).
2. a Factual Correction: They didn't start to preempt the show until something like the fourth week, at least where I live.
3. No one really changes timeslots anymore, and never with one hour dramas (once in an extraordinarily great while you'll see a sitcom change timeslots but never a drama).
4. Please learn to [ /quote ] when you quote (removing the spaces) as trying to read one huge quoted text is a little distracting.
Thank you,
I apologize for any negative tone, because that wasn't why I posted. But it wasn't only American Idol where FOX promoted the show... you couldn't even watch the World Series without seeing 50 Firefly ads behind home plate, not to even mention the amount of on-line advertising and magazine advertising ... its really been an impressive ad campaign if you ask me - impressive as far as exposure goes.
Once again, I'll say that I love this show, but it certainly looks like its going to get cancelled... and fairly soon at that. Pretending as though the ratings aren't that bad or spewing negatives at Fox or "putting on a brave face" or signing petitions doesn't change the fact that its had dismal ratings.
I like Joss's stuff a lot, but let's face facts... as much as people say that they love Buffy and Angel... neither show has ever had great ratings... even by WB/UPN standards. Smallville, for example, is generating ratings that I don't think Buffy and Angel have ever seen.
Firefly was a good show that had a lot of potential but, unfortunately, nobody watched it.
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Originally posted by PsionTen:
Firefly was a good show that had a lot of potential but, unfortunately, nobody watched it.
Ok... it's not cancelled *yet*. At least wait until it is to speak about it in the past tense (if it even does get canned).
--Dylan Palmer, Pretentious Bastard at Large--
"Oh my god, I'm a hack!" - Joss Whedon
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Ok... it's not cancelled *yet*. At least wait until it is to speak about it in the past tense (if it even does get canned).
Ok then... Firefly is a good show with a lot of potential but, unfortunately, nobody is watching it.
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Originally posted by PsionTen:Quote:
Ok... it's not cancelled *yet*. At least wait until it is to speak about it in the past tense (if it even does get canned).
Ok then... Firefly is a good show with a lot of potential but, unfortunately, nobody is watching it.
--Dylan Palmer, Pretentious Bastard at Large--
"Oh my god, I'm a hack!" - Joss Whedon
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When will we know dammit?
This AOL article had this to say about Ff:
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Fox continues to generate passable ratings on Friday, with "Firefly" hitting some of its best male demos since September and "John Doe" topping its hour in adults 18-34 (preliminary 2.6/10) and all male demos. For the night, Fox led in men 18-34, 18-49 and 25-54.
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FOX wants the male demos, right? At least this news isn't bad.
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copy and paste this if ya want to read the whole thing...
aol://4344:30.LH1D6Jge.7225274.721822638/
Warrick: You didn't have to wound that man.
Mal: Yeah, I know. It was just funny.
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Originally posted by Persephone:
When will we know dammit?
This AOL article had this to say about Ff:
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Fox continues to generate passable ratings on Friday, with "Firefly" hitting some of its best male demos since September and "John Doe" topping its hour in adults 18-34 (preliminary 2.6/10) and all male demos. For the night, Fox led in men 18-34, 18-49 and 25-54.
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FOX wants the male demos, right? At least this news isn't bad.
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copy and paste this if ya want to read the whole thing...
aol://4344:30.LH1D6Jge.7225274.721822638/
Warrick: You didn't have to wound that man.
Mal: Yeah, I know. It was just funny.
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