Japanese Whalers.....
POSTED BY: Calhoun
UPDATED: Friday, June 12, 2026 18:00
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Quote:I concur.
Originally posted by Niki2:
to me pretty clearly shows the whaling ship turning and deliberately closing on the Ady Gil:
The laughing Chrisisall
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I generally AM one of the ones hating on "Hero", but in MOST of this debate, I've been - ever so reluctantly, given the company and the subject at hand - more or less on his side.
And you can't imagine how it pains me to admit that. ;)
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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I see grudges left over from political flame wars Niki, many were before you got here, not surprising that you don't see them. I also see people discounting Hero's input because he's a lawyer? Maybe? He doesn't do himself any favors with his imperious tone I'll admit. Name calling aside, it especially frustrates when I do think (and maybe the Sheperds agree) that litigation is the key to solving the problem, and not - as Mike so perfectly alluded to - the kind of violent tactics that too closely mirror those of abortion clinic bombers.
Litigation is not emotionally satisfying, it's slow and it's not for those that like to take charge, but it's got a better chance at making permanent change. These cowboys have as much chance at doing their cause good as damaging it, at least to people that are in a position to really help them.
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
I see grudges left over from political flame wars Niki, many were before you got here, not surprising that you don't see them. I also see people discounting Hero's input because he's a lawyer? Maybe? He doesn't do himself any favors with his imperious tone I'll admit. Name calling aside, it especially frustrates when I do think (and maybe the Sheperds agree) that litigation is the key to solving the problem, and not - as Mike so perfectly alluded to - the kind of violent tactics that too closely mirror those of abortion clinic bombers.
Litigation is not emotionally satisfying, it's slow and it's not for those that like to take charge, but it's got a better chance at making permanent change. These cowboys have as much chance at doing their cause good as damaging it, at least to people that are in a position to really help them.
Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com
Bingo. I support their GOALS, as stated many times already, but I won't give them one penny of my money to go out and engage in violence or piracy. Like PETA and Earth First, I'm not against what they're aiming for, but their methods are so far out there that I'll purposely distance myself from them and withhold support just because of those methods.
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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Quote:On the other hand, if getting their boat smashed saves even ONE citizen of the ocean, is it not worth it? I wouldn't use their methods, but neither can I totally condemn them.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Like PETA and Earth First, I'm not against what they're aiming for, but their methods are so far out there that I'll purposely distance myself from them and withhold support just because of those methods.
But then again I'm one of those nutjobs that feel like we should not be killing mammals of ANY kind for food or fur.
Only if they run out in front of your car. Or if they bite your toes late at night when you're trying to sleep.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Goddamned LDS double post!
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Or if they bite your toes late at night when you're trying to sleep.
Aw, that's kind of fun actually. You just wiggle your feet and keep them pouncing, eventually you can nudge them off the bed and declare victory. Your prize is precious precious sleep.
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Quote:My cats know I will kill them. I have told them as much, and they comply. In my bedroom, they fear me.
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Aw, that's kind of fun actually. You just wiggle your feet and keep them pouncing, eventually you can nudge them off the bed and declare victory. Your prize is precious precious sleep.
In all other parts of the house, they rule with an iron paw.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Bytemite:Quote:
Or if they bite your toes late at night when you're trying to sleep.
Aw, that's kind of fun actually. You just wiggle your feet and keep them pouncing, eventually you can nudge them off the bed and declare victory. Your prize is precious precious sleep.
Sweet victory sleep!
My cats have decided that I'm some kind of prize in their forever war. When I go to bed, Peedie gets on one side of me to get some petting as I drift off to sleep; in retaliation, Rodger gets on the other side of me, but even closer. So then one or the other of them will decide to escalate, and claim a spot on my chest. I'm surprised neither of them have "gone nuclear" and laid on my head yet!
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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