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TIGHTPANTS

Monday, June 28, 2004 1:23 PM

Ahhh yes, the poor old PC party .. well about a year ago they were 'reunited' into the Alliance party of Canada. This reunification of the far right (the Alliance) and the progressive conservatives (centre right) was not unlike the battle of Serenity ... and, well ... let's just say, the Alliance won that battle too.

TIGER

Monday, June 28, 2004 5:36 PM

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Browncoats="Independents"=self-reliant=Republican

That is the silliest thing I've read in a while... Patriot Act, Prescription drug program, the War on Drugs

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"Gettin in a mans way is what governments are good for" ~ Mal

A very basic concept that many Republicans would agree with.

Another silly... see above.

However,

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I see most Browncoats to be independent....as their names truly indicates.

That's correct. Independent as in the dictionary definition, not a political "party" affiliation.

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see I'm kinda thinking that both the Democrats & the Republicans have sold out to Big Business and special interests...clearly to Blue Sun, and the Alliance...

The Browncoats/Independents wanted to live free without the big government which both parties represent now days... that's why they lost

YES!

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I think its more then definately Libertarian

YES! True Browncoats might even be too curmudgeonly to belong to the benign Libertarian party.... but definitely libertarian in spirit if not in party affiliation.

Contemplation would make a good life, keep it strict, only
The eyes of a desert skull drinking the sun,
Too intense for flesh, lonely
Exultations of white bone;
Pure action would make a good life, let it be sharp -
Set between the throat and the knife.
A man who knows death by heart
Is the man for that life.
In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

JCKNIFE

Monday, June 28, 2004 5:44 PM

You make some good points, Tiger. Actually I think a LOT of Republicans would vote Libertarian if they thought the Libertarian candidate had a chance of winning. I for one would LOVE to see a Libertarian president. However, right now we're stuck with a 2-party system and you've got to work the system. Ross Perot gave us 2 terms of Slick Willy (who NEVER got a majority of the popular vote).

Oh, as for your pull-quote of me: this administration has done some very UN-republican things! That's for sure.

TIGER

Monday, June 28, 2004 5:56 PM

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this administration has done some very UN-republican things! That's for sure.

You are a very smart Republican :-) (closet libertarian?)

There was a time when the Republicans stood for self-reliance, independence, and small government (at least in comparison with the dems), but it is harder and harder to tell the two major parties apart anymore.

As far as not voting for a Libertarian because they have such a small chance of winning - if you vote for a candidate that you sincerely agree with, you may have only a small chance of getting what you want in government, but if you vote for someone who you don't agree with just because they can win, you'll NEVER get what you really want.

This is truly a "you can't take the sky from me" attitude. :-)

Contemplation would make a good life, keep it strict, only
The eyes of a desert skull drinking the sun,
Too intense for flesh, lonely
Exultations of white bone;
Pure action would make a good life, let it be sharp -
Set between the throat and the knife.
A man who knows death by heart
Is the man for that life.
In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

TOMSMEAGOL

Monday, June 28, 2004 6:03 PM

Neither. They're independents, as others have said. I think they espouse ideas present in both parties, but would outright reject our political system as being "too much governin'"

SPLIBERTARIAN

Monday, June 28, 2004 6:57 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger:

As far as not voting for a Libertarian because they have such a small chance of winning - if you vote for a candidate that you sincerely agree with, you may have only a small chance of getting what you want in government, but if you vote for someone who you don't agree with just because they can win, you'll NEVER get what you really want.

This is truly a "you can't take the sky from me" attitude. :-)

Exactly.

They can take my love. They can take my land. But I'll be damned if I'm just gonna give it to them!

SPLIBERTARIAN

Monday, June 28, 2004 7:10 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger:

As far as not voting for a Libertarian because they have such a small chance of winning - if you vote for a candidate that you sincerely agree with, you may have only a small chance of getting what you want in government, but if you vote for someone who you don't agree with just because they can win, you'll NEVER get what you really want.

This is truly a "you can't take the sky from me" attitude. :-)

Exactly.

They can take my love. They can take my land. But I'll be damned if I'm just gonna give it to them!

RADHIL

Monday, June 28, 2004 7:19 PM

The whole notion of Browncoats was independence. I hardly think they'd be inclined to join any particular thing. Just to be off on their own. Living simple.

Radhil Trebors
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IAMJACKSUSERNAME

Monday, June 28, 2004 8:17 PM

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I think a LOT of Republicans would vote Libertarian if they thought the Libertarian candidate had a chance of winning. I for one would LOVE to see a Libertarian president. However, right now we're stuck with a 2-party system and you've got to work the system. Ross Perot gave us 2 terms of Slick Willy (who NEVER got a majority of the popular vote).

"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No", said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd", said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did", said Ford. "It is."
"So", said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them", said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes", said Ford with a shrug, "of course".
"But", said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in."

Douglas Adams, So long, and thanks for all the fish, chapter 36.

As for browncoats, I'd guess many would be capitalist libertarians.

For thems in the USA, check out the the [url= http://www.lp.org/]LP website[/url]. I personally wouldn't vote for them - not liking their neo-feudal policies which I think would result in a plutocratic hell for the vast majority under such a regime, but, goslings!
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TIGER

Monday, June 28, 2004 8:41 PM

correct link: http://www.lp.org/

Also, on the right side of the page check out the World's Smallest Political Quiz. It's the best indicator I've seen of where you fall politically.

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I personally wouldn't vote for them - not liking their neo-feudal policies

"neo-feudal"? This must be unique among descriptions of libertarianism. Please elaborate :-)

...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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