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POSTED BY: Cazaril
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 18:18
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Ah, okay, I didn't know what you meant by the Burnham thing, because Miranda does orbit around the former gas giant now helioformed brown dwarf Burnham.
As for the border worlds, to rule out that it isn't location, you'd probably need to make yourself a coordinate system with White Sun in the middle, then position to Blue Sun, Red Sun, Geogia, and Kalidasa the appropriate distance away based on the Verse by Numbers and maybe an intersection with the calculated distance from multiple gravitation bodies using the others. Then draw arcs around the stars based on the Verse in Numbers distance from star for the border worlds listed in the Serenity RPG. Be a lot of work though.
But development could I think be a valid explanation. Of course, I suspect that the border worlds have developed better than Rim worlds because of better shipping lanes (closer to the Core or some other factor), or simply being more hospitable worlds.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
As for the border worlds, to rule out that it isn't location, you'd probably need to make yourself a coordinate system with White Sun in the middle, then position to Blue Sun, Red Sun, Geogia, and Kalidasa the appropriate distance away based on the Verse by Numbers and maybe an intersection with the calculated distance from multiple gravitation bodies using the others. Then draw arcs around the stars based on the Verse in Numbers distance from star for the border worlds listed in the Serenity RPG. Be a lot of work though.
Actually, once I get Blue Sun, and the basic orbits of the five systems finished (I've already got system maps produced for White Sun, Georgia, Red Sun and Kalidasa), my plan was to put a lot of the stuff from "Verse in Numbers" into excel, and start looking for correlations between the data sets (terraforming date and population <=> category - Core/Border/Rim).
With Santo listed as being in the White Sun system (and positioned between planets like Londinium and Ariel), I shouldn't need to go beyond that one system. But I still plan to sort of map them out by category in yet another map (the best I can).
Caz
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I'm impressed! And this is all for work on the RP?
Which, by the way, I think is a finely constructed piece of work. The simplicity of the dice rolls and the concept of the plot points really appeals to me.
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Re: emailing QMx
We have people(11th Hour) on this board who work for them, and I understand that they are the ones who worked on the maps. I know they would reply to you, I met several of them in LA in November and the people over at QMx are always striving to be correct when it comes to the 'verse. They are so happy to have the rights to the shows, and they said they want to hear from the fans. We have a couple of them in the 76th Independant Battalion.(Hildara for one)
So, maybe its not such a bad idea after all...
Chaplain of the 76th Independant Battalion
Do not bother dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!
...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal
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Originally posted by fillygirl:
We have people(11th Hour) on this board who work for them, and I understand that they are the ones who worked on the maps. I know they would reply to you, I met several of them in LA in November and the people over at QMx are always striving to be correct when it comes to the 'verse. They are so happy to have the rights to the shows, and they said they want to hear from the fans. We have a couple of them in the 76th Independant Battalion.(Hildara for one)
So, maybe its not such a bad idea after all...
If you know someone that works at QMx that could help, please
I would appreciate any assistance I can get.
Caz
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I'm impressed! And this is all for work on the RP?
Which, by the way, I think is a finely constructed piece of work. The simplicity of the dice rolls and the concept of the plot points really appeals to me.
I love the design of the RPG. I was telling my brother in-law.. I have characters that I have been working on for over 15 years, but I don't have as clear a picture in my head as I do for the four characters I created (mainly the assets and complications have helped define them). I also really like the "skill+trait" way that things are handled. It's really great.
As for all the work... I'm used to playing BattleTech and AD&D. Both systems have been around so long, that if I need something, I can usually find it on the web. As a information junkie, I'm faced with having to do it myself this time. If it helps me understand the universe better, it's worth it.
Caz
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Ooh! BattleTech! I don't often see people into that. I played the videogames, not so much the table top, but the complicated story and all the infighting is REALLY fun.
I really haven't played table top for long, maybe a year or two, and I've never gotten far with anyone in campaigns because whenever me and my friends get a group together, people lose interest pretty fast. But I like how it's really just a story collaboration with a bunch of complicated rules.
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I don't actually get to play much (as it, not at all). What I do get to do is...
For D&D I write modules and have my own campaign world I work on. I also write short stories, and story snippets for it too.
For BattleTech, well, same thing as D&D. I don't care much for where the official universe went, so I turned the clock back, and started an alternate one.
I also paint the miniatures... If your interest, check out www.lordsofthebattlefield.com .. Go into the forum list, and look for "Miniatures Showcase". Look for anything with the Author of "Cazaril"
Now that I have the Serenity RPG, and four unique characters to fly my ship, I've been working on a story for this 'Verse too. It's the other reason I'm trying to pin down so many facts. This way it will fit better into what has already been established.
Caz
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Welcome to the board.
There is an online version of the Map of the Verse. It is linked around here somewhere.
http://wydraz.110mb.com/firefly/index.html
There are also some threads in the Episode Forum which you might find helpful or interesting.
I don't have my notes or cheat sheet with me, but I'll try to clarify things from memory.
Core refers to worlds within the asteroid belt (The Halo) closest to White Sun, as I recall. I think Lux is outside this, and Persephone orbits Lux.
Not all sources agree. Universal mandated that the Map of the Verse showed a 5 Sun system, yet the goodies accompanying the Serenity DVDs show the Verse as a 1 Sun system. Many other discrepancies between sources.
Santo was the world they cleared out of in a hurry after the pool parlor fight, talking about slaver traders. I think this was the opening of Shindig, where Inara insults Mal's petty thievery.
I was thinking Santo was the sole orbiter of another body, which orbits White Sun. But yes, this would be White Sun System.
Burnham was helioformed first because it was the farthest away from the Core in case anything went wrong, then others were done as the process was refined. Burnham is orbited by Miranda.
The Rim worlds are more removed from the Core. Core worlds are closer to everything. It takes about 5.5 days for Serenity to traverse the Verse, it takes about 2400 years for Blue Sun to orbit White Sun, and Kalidasa is on the opposite end of the Verse (although not as pictured on the Map). So the worlds of Blue and Kalidasa are not on the way to many other places, and they don't really move very much in relative terms. In between are the Border worlds, providing links between the extremes. Lux (Persephone) and Murphy (Shadow, Hera) were at greatest proximity in 2511. Consider those items when evaluating the interactivity of the worlds.
There has been word that QMX might at some point update data to include Ita Moon, Kowlon Fed Base, and Kowlonshi locations. The supposed location of Beaumonde is the most glaring inconsistency.
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Ni Howdy! Welcome to the 'verse.
I'm only about two to three years ahead of you in discovering this lovely place.
You're probably going to have to pick one version of the maps and stick to that in your head. I have seen at least two versions and I've never even run across the RPG. Trying to make two or more separate individuals' visions unify into a cohesive unit will probably never work and drive you batty into the bargain, as it is unlikely they consulted with each other before progressing and might have interpreted source material differently/made it up wholecloth.
Now go forth to other threads and meet shiny new people! 
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