Iran's nuclear intentions?
POSTED BY: kpo
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 05:49
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Originally posted by kpo:Quote:
Cheney, Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz were all involved in trying to sell them US reactors
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2067
I don't trust your source to provide reliable facts/analysis. Any more mainstream news providers (or less agenda-driven) reports on this?
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3983-2005Mar26.htmlQuote:
they are fairly democratic next to the principal US allies in the area...
You'll notice I've stayed clear of this argument, mainly because none of those US allies are pursuing nuclear programmes. I would be just as alarmed if some of them did (like Yemen).
Of course these regimes are under US protection... Iran has just itself to rely on, with not only threats but the past US sponsored attacks to draw on when considering possible threats. The rhetoric does work both ways, hard not to be paranoid when when they threaten you on the news every other night. Quote:
I'd have to say I'd trust them more than Pakistan, India or Israel.
And as for these countries that already have nuclear weapons, this can't be easily undone. The best way to redeem a bad situation is not to forget about non-proliferation and suggest 'nuclear weapons for all', as if this will make the world better.
But leveling the playing field does make fair negotiation more likely, do you think Iran is more or less likely to enter into a war with nuclear weapons... considering the US would use this as a pretext to level them, as a last resort weapon, if they were attacked... maybe... but the chances somebody would attack them drops off quite a bit too. Quote:
How much do you know about Iran and it's people ?
A basic knowledge of the history, and the country's workings.
So a country with a high standard for education, healthcare, science, etc
Some sniping between them and their neighbors, but that is a historical Shia / Sunni thing
Where is all the hate the US displays coming from?
Heads should roll
Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists
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What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
...my backing US attempts to stop Iran acquiring nuclear weapons is not equivalent to Gino backing Iran's attempts to *acquire* nuclear weapons.
That's a cute tactic, but it's a false equivalency. Saying that you can understand why Iran might WANT nuclear weapons, and that they have some legitimate historical gripes with the U.S., *IS NOT THE SAME* as saying that you really, really, really want Iran to have nuclear weapons because you just love them so very much and want to cuddle with them.
I can honestly say that I can understand some of Osama bin Laden's gripes with the U.S., and that doesn't make me an ally of his, an admirer of his, a Muslim, or any kind of terrorist. It just means that I can understand more than one side of an argument.
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
Actually I would argue if Iran had a hand full of nuclear weapons it would stabilize the region.
It would be about the only thing to end the nonconservative drive in the US to attack them...
might stop Israel from rattling their sabers, and with Iran on a equal footing detente could be achieved. Right now they are the only Muslim country that doesn't follow Washingtons lead, therefore they represent the interests of a large part of the middleeast ( and Africa, and Asia )who have nobody else to speak for them...
That could be very valuable in starting a dialog, and another thing that could end this cycle of war.
Practically, I wish the world free of nukes...
Realistically, it would solve some problems
Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists
Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"
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Indeed.
Look how fast the sabre rattling at North Korea STOPPED COLD the minute it was clear they had one.
That's a big part of my problem with the whole "neoconservative" pack of neo-feudo-fascist shitheels to begin with, is that they, being totally drive by fear, happen to be the most cowardly morass of bullies on the planet with huge insecurity issues both politically and personally.
For a fact, I damn well KNEW (and y'all might remember I said as much) that they weren't using UN inspections to decide whether Saddam had weapons, they were using them to make sure his regime was defenseless - the same way abusive ex's hide out near the courthouse steps KNOWING their intended victim will be unarmed there, cause they're gutless little fucks without a single bloody ounce of courage or moral fibre, even when it's not even THEM who gets sent into the meat grinder, but us peons ?
Fuck that.
What's worse is that knowing their mentality, they would be PERFECTLY happy with some country we invaded nuking america, so long as their hideout wasn't targeted, since it would whip up the hysteria and build the pathetic quivering of knees that their whole power is built upon.
Hint to foreign countries on our shitlist, don't aim at washington, aim directly at the fuckers talking shit, believe me, it'll stop just as quick as a mugger does when he suddenly realizes you CAN and WILL shoot his ass if he don't.
Oh, and BTW, the Times has all but admitted the document is indeed a complete forgery, and despite whatever their political bent may be, GlobalResearch generally makes intelligence assessments and predictions an order of magnitude more accurately than our supposed professionals we pay fifty times as much - why is that you think, hmmm ?
And let's not even go there on wanting a mainstream media source given that they've been completely fulla shit every time it ever mattered, all the way back to "Remember the Maine" and often as not it was fucking deliberate.
No matter though, if we weren't so goddamn stupid we'd realize the only reason the Russians and the Chinese haven't already handed em one (and if we bitched all they'd have to do is point to Israel, wouldn't they ?) to stabilize the region and bring this bullshit to a halt - is that they're watching us blunder deeper and deeper into the quicksand laughing up their sleeves all the while and selling weapons to the locals on the side, sure as shit the Chinese are laughing at us, every day as we sink deeper into debt they own our ass just that much more, look up just how FAR we are in debt with em... and the Russians, pffth, they're just waiting for us to renege on those debts (which we will) and the inevitable confrontation which follows weakening both countries and putting THEM on top of the heap.
And they don't have to do a fuckin thing but sit back and watch it happen, ain't that a laugh ?
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-Frem
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An interesting article on disappeared and assassinated Iranian scientists. It'll be interpreted different ways, but...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/12/iran-scientist-assassinati
on-allegation-west
Heads should roll
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Iran has increased its enriched uranium stockpile to more than 32 times 2015 nuclear deal, UN watchdog warns
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14101907/iran-nuclear-program
me-watchdog.html
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