Fahrenheit 9/11 tops weekend box office

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JANIELYNN

Monday, June 28, 2004 4:44 AM

Also, your older demographic filmgoers, don't typically don't rush out to the theatre on the opening weekend. Most moviegoers on opening weekend are 35 or younger.

A film like I, Robot or Spider-Man counts on that demographic for repeat business, whereas Fahrenheit is probably counting on the 35 & up crowd to sustain it over the coming weeks (while all the younger folks are at Spider-Man 2)

JANIELYNN

Monday, June 28, 2004 4:50 AM

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Originally posted by Caligari:
and I paid cash money just to place my "vote" for such courage, his politics notwithstanding.

I think a lot of this films business is coming from people wishing to "cast a vote" or simply send a message to the current administration. While I do think Moore did a remarkable thing by grabbing the #1 spot. I think a lot of the credit also has to be placed with that percentage of the public who disagrees with the President's politics.

CALIGARI

Monday, June 28, 2004 6:48 AM

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Originally posted by janielynn:
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Originally posted by Caligari:
and I paid cash money just to place my "vote" for such courage, his politics notwithstanding.

I think a lot of this films business is coming from people wishing to "cast a vote" or simply send a message to the current administration. While I do think Moore did a remarkable thing by grabbing the #1 spot. I think a lot of the credit also has to be placed with that percentage of the public who disagrees with the President's politics.

I placed my vote a long time ago by _not_ voting for Bush. The "vote" (as indicated by quotes) has nothing to do with the politics involved; as indicated in the rest of my posting, I value the courage of the filmmaker, either Moore or, as indicated in the posting, Mel Gibson, for taking a stand and presenting a view. Is the success due to the already-converted choir running to the box-office? Is is due to curiosity? I donno. I saw this film knowing Moore's politics, and knowning my own feelings about the particular subject matter. Beyond this, are matters of the soul, and this is only between an individual and that with which one lives with on a daily basis.

JCKNIFE

Monday, June 28, 2004 12:18 PM

Hey, Caligari, watch your quote editing. I did not say the things attributed to me 5 posts up from this one.

SOUTHERNMERC

Monday, June 28, 2004 1:03 PM

She was quoting JanieLynn, JCKnife. But it is easy to see the source of the misunderstanding. The quote does make it look like she's quoting you.

BTW, I was somewhat interested in Moore's film "Bowling for Columbine" just to see what the talk was about, until I watched the animated segment. Animated segment...in a documentary? That right there had me questioning the film's veracity, as the segment had ALOT of misleading and flat out wrong information. "If just that small bit was misleading, what about the rest?" I said. So, I have a hard time believing MM's movies are honest. Did the events he outline occur? For the most part, I think they did. But I believe he put a spin on them, and even showed the events in a Hollywood type of showmanship that leads the audience to the wrong conclusion.

Haven't seen F911 yet, will wait til a friend rents or borrows it. Don't think I want to spend any money on it, yet.

Jayne: "See, Vera? You get dressed up, you get taken someplace fun!"

MAUGWAI

Monday, June 28, 2004 3:08 PM

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Originally posted by SouthernMerc:

BTW, I was somewhat interested in Moore's film "Bowling for Columbine" just to see what the talk was about, until I watched the animated segment. Animated segment...in a documentary? That right there had me questioning the film's veracity, as the segment had ALOT of misleading and flat out wrong information. "If just that small bit was misleading, what about the rest?" I said. So, I have a hard time believing MM's movies are honest. Did the events he outline occur? For the most part, I think they did. But I believe he put a spin on them, and even showed the events in a Hollywood type of showmanship that leads the audience to the wrong conclusion.

Michael Moore never said he was trying to be objective. When John Stewart asked him if he was fair on the Daily Show, Moore said, "No. Of course I'm not fair." So you take his stuff with a grain of salt. He's combining art and politics, and doing it very well. But he does have an agenda.

The funniest part of the movie, I thought, was how many people run when they see him. I would too. But the film tugs at your heart strings just like a regular movie. I did laugh, and I did cry. I tried to look at it with the awareness of his agenda, but when you put it like he did, man that stuff is persuasive. Moore definitely knows what he's doing.

And at the theater we went to, every single showing was sold out both Saturday and Sunday. Lines to get in were stretching down the street.

"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

JASONZZZ

Monday, June 28, 2004 3:43 PM

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Originally posted by maugwai:
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Originally posted by SouthernMerc:

BTW, I was somewhat interested in Moore's film "Bowling for Columbine" just to see what the talk was about, until I watched the animated segment. Animated segment...in a documentary? That right there had me questioning the film's veracity, as the segment had ALOT of misleading and flat out wrong information. "If just that small bit was misleading, what about the rest?" I said. So, I have a hard time believing MM's movies are honest. Did the events he outline occur? For the most part, I think they did. But I believe he put a spin on them, and even showed the events in a Hollywood type of showmanship that leads the audience to the wrong conclusion.

Michael Moore never said he was trying to be objective. When John Stewart asked him if he was fair on the Daily Show, Moore said, "No. Of course I'm not fair." So you take his stuff with a grain of salt. He's combining art and politics, and doing it very well. But he does have an agenda.

LOL, that's the perfect carny. Telling one group that "of course the illusions are all fake, but *you* guys are a lot smarter than that, I am only trying to fool *those* idiots. Now pay up and enjoy the show"

If he so believes it, why not have those statements put right into the movie. Couple of screens of white on black exclaiming that everything are cut-n-paste taken out of context with complete license simply for the value of satire and entertainment. But no, instead, everything within his movies are portrayed as "as is, and true".

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Originally posted by maugwai:

The funniest part of the movie, I thought, was how many people run when they see him. I would too. But the film tugs at your heart strings just like a regular movie. I did laugh, and I did cry. I tried to look at it with the awareness of his agenda, but when you put it like he did, man that stuff is persuasive. Moore definitely knows what he's doing.

And at the theater we went to, every single showing was sold out both Saturday and Sunday. Lines to get in were stretching down the street.

"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

LEXIBLOCK

Monday, June 28, 2004 3:51 PM

Ah yes, an almost typical Michael Moore discussion: Attack him for being ugly - even though has nothing to do with political point of view. Claim his films are full of lies, yet never prove any of them. etc etc.

If he had lied someone would have sued him, the never do. He presents the facts and states and opinion, and that is no longer accepted in the USA. Home of the free it's no longer.

JCKNIFE

Monday, June 28, 2004 4:11 PM

I would defend to the death his right to make his movies. I would never vote for any law to silence him. I simply do not agree with him.

JASONZZZ

Monday, June 28, 2004 4:50 PM

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Originally posted by LexiBlock:
Ah yes, an almost typical Michael Moore discussion: Attack him for being ugly - even though has nothing to do with political point of view. Claim his films are full of lies, yet never prove any of them. etc etc.

Agreed, he is big fat and ugly.
Lies and libels are different. His films are full of slants, misquotes, "facts" & imageries & quotes taken out of context, harassing the common folk. What else is new. It's funny and entertaining. But IMHO, not worth my $9.00.

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If he had lied someone would have sued him, the never do. He presents the facts and states and opinion, and that is no longer accepted in the USA. Home of the free it's no longer.

It's political satire. And in the big USA, you can still critique and review, you can still call another person's opinion crompletely wrong. Especially when they are misrepresenting the truth here and there, and in general from running up half-baked crack-pots ideas to outright lies.

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